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klefenz

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So im at "peace" with the goblis.
« on: November 18, 2013, 05:40:01 am »

In the civilizations screen gobos are marked P.
I read that they should attack anyway, but they havent yet, only a couple snatchers i think.

Bad luck, i was waiting for them to test my new gate defense design.

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Re: So im at "peace" with the goblis.
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2013, 05:57:14 am »

I'm 99% sure (you can never be absolutely sure with DF) that you are still guaranteed ambushes and sieges. Their constant attacking is a product of the snatcher tag: While you are at peace, they will repeatedly send snatchers, and then ambushes, and sieges, presumably because a dwarven army is attacking them elsewhere in response to the snatches. Only removing it allows genuine peace.


I know that the gobbos are listed as peaceful in my game, but they still attack.
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Re: So im at "peace" with the goblis.
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2013, 05:59:37 am »

OK, they must be afraid of my defenses then.

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Re: So im at "peace" with the goblis.
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2013, 08:35:40 am »

Man if you were at peace with the gobblos, think about all the troll fur thongs you could import.
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Re: So im at "peace" with the goblis.
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2013, 04:22:41 pm »

All that P means is that you're not actively at war with the goblins. Because of the child-snatcher tag, they'll always be hostile.
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Re: So im at "peace" with the goblis.
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2013, 05:12:40 pm »

A few questions:
  • How long has it been? They might not attack for several years.
  • How much wealth have you generated? This is a biggie
  • How many dwarves do you have? This could also cause it.
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Re: So im at "peace" with the goblis.
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2013, 05:15:12 pm »

Wait for a goblin caravan. Then murder their goods, burn their diplomats, and steal their wagons.
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Re: So im at "peace" with the goblis.
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2013, 06:23:06 pm »

I would listen to everyon else, however in my experinece peace with goblins was actual peace.
I went for 2 full years with only hostile kobolds, and I was right next to a goblin fortress.

It should be noted, that 2 years is likely not long enough to suggest it was a permanent peace. I know my population and wealth was high enough for 2 full years, but again 2 might not be a long enough period of time.

So while my experience suggests otherwise, I'd bet everyone else is right.
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Re: So im at "peace" with the goblis.
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2013, 07:08:36 pm »

Well, if goblins dont come i always can throw an elf down the lava pit.

        Alewe, diplomat has been missing for a week...

I play with modest mod, which made human diplomat available, however i havent seen elven envoys yet, maybe next caravan.

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Re: So im at "peace" with the goblis.
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2013, 07:25:35 pm »

Well, if goblins dont come i always can throw an elf down the lava pit.
Yes, when at peace with the goblins we can focus on the true enemies: cannibalistic tree huggers

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Re: So im at "peace" with the goblis.
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2013, 10:35:52 pm »

OK, i murdered the elven merchants, hope they get angry now

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Re: So im at "peace" with the goblis.
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2013, 11:05:43 pm »

I know that some people have reported that they can get Gobbo caravans, but I have never experienced it, nor come across any proof that the caravans actually exist. But this isn't directly triggered by the civ screen showing "P"

I like to think that for gobbos, "P" means "Passive", as in they are doing what they always do.
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Re: So im at "peace" with the goblis.
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2013, 11:13:53 pm »

I dont know, 4 years, 188 dwarves and over 4.7M wealth and i only got snatchers, no ambushes, no sieges.

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Re: So im at "peace" with the goblis.
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2013, 12:48:49 am »

Well, they finally attacked. Just a small group, and got cut to shreds. One of them got both legs severed and fell down a pit where she bled to death.

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Re: So im at "peace" with the goblis.
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2013, 07:38:54 am »

Well, they finally attacked. Just a small group, and got cut to shreds. One of them got both legs severed and fell down a pit where she bled to death.

It may take years for them to start their first attack, but from now on they'll arrive in larger numbers every time.
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