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Author Topic: AD&D- Hijinks of Undermountain- Resurrection imposes a level penalty, you know.  (Read 18459 times)

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Re: AD&D- Hijinks of Undermountain- The Interest Check
« Reply #60 on: November 14, 2013, 08:40:14 am »

Sucks to be you, I guess. Them's the 2nd Edition.

Okay, what's a less rude and abrupt way to say that?

The GM has stated that we are using Method I for generating attributes, which is rolling 3d6 for Strength, then 3d6 for Dexterity, and so forth, no switching. We need to make do with what we have, so you cannot be a mountain druid (unless Remuthra comes in to bend the rules in some way for you). Is it nice? No. Is it the rules? Yes.
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Re: AD&D- Hijinks of Undermountain- The Interest Check
« Reply #61 on: November 14, 2013, 08:59:54 am »

Oh, and my sheet is done.
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Re: AD&D- Hijinks of Undermountain- The Interest Check
« Reply #62 on: November 14, 2013, 09:15:11 am »

*SIGH* well then, taking Fighter/Plains Druid. Which is not a kit but a druid branch.

Str 12, Dex 12, Con 9, Int 8, Wis 14, Cha 16.

Maybe I'll try using kits.




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Re: AD&D- Hijinks of Undermountain- The Interest Check
« Reply #63 on: November 14, 2013, 02:48:58 pm »

That's Second Edition :P.

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« Reply #64 on: November 14, 2013, 03:03:52 pm »

That's Second Edition :P.

What do you mean ? I'm still new to this.

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Re: AD&D- Hijinks of Undermountain- The Interest Check
« Reply #65 on: November 14, 2013, 03:04:39 pm »

That's Second Edition :P.

Meaning ? I'm still new to this.
Roll straight down. No reassigning stats.

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« Reply #66 on: November 14, 2013, 03:16:44 pm »

That's Second Edition :P.

Meaning ? I'm still new to this.
Roll straight down. No reassigning stats.

That's what I did.

Of course, I rerolled Charisma 9 times at least to get above 15 and rerolled Wis once, but apart from that, no problem.

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Re: AD&D- Hijinks of Undermountain- The Interest Check
« Reply #67 on: November 14, 2013, 03:25:14 pm »

One day, if this doesn't start, I will look through that book and figure out how to make a character.

Actually, now that I think of it, this might be the version that I played in the 8th grade.
Is this the version with the first attempt at adding psionics?
Because I remember one of my teammates had it for a while.
1st edition AD&D had psionics. But technically I guess there was an Original D&D supplement that had them? I'm not so sure about that. 2E psionics is confined to the Psionicist's Handbook, which gives all the details of the Psionicist class.

Ok, Imma do this.

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Hey, since wizards can use slings, and staffs, could I switch to a sling-staff? Or does it just not work like that?

Also, is this good?
Wizards don't get bonus spells, but Clerics do! And your exceptionally high Wisdom actually gives you lots of bonus spells. How it works is you get all the bonus spells for your Wisdom and all the Wisdoms below you. So at 16 WIS you actually get 2 bonus 1st level spells and 2 bonus 2nd level spells. But of course you don't get any 2nd level bonus spells until you can cast them normally, which will happen when you hit 3rd level Cleric.

AFAIK a staff-sling is actually a different weapon from a staff or a sling. But because you're a Cleric/Mage you can use all the Cleric and Mage weapons, EXCEPT that you have to abide by the Cleric restriction against sharp weapons. So look at it this way:

1: Can use any weapons allowed by any of my classes,
2: But then I can't use any weapons specifically restricted by any of my classes.

I think staff-sling might be a Cleric weapon. If so, you're golden! You'll get 2 starting weapon proficiencies, which have to apply to specific weapons (like staff-sling). If you use a weapon you're not proficient in, you have a small attack roll penalty.

Time to roll stats... (after not rolling a 15+ for a while) 16, 14, 8, 11, 12, 9.

Well, 16cha, 14wis, 12str, 11dex, 9con, 8int.
Actually, 16 Str, 14 Dex, 8 Con, 11 Int, 12 Wis, 9 Cha.
You don't get to pick what number goes to what stat. Sorry.

...I need 15 Cha as a druid. Nor I am going to play a druid with a main stat as a minimum required for my class.

I'm fine with rolling 3d6 but should I now roll 60 dice because roll n°1 goes to Strength instead of Charisma ? This is madness.
It's ok to play with the minimum WIS. Druids don't get bonus spells for high stats, and saves aren't linked to it like in 3E. Low main stat hurts worse for Wizards and Clerics. Rem may use a house rule for letting you shift stats around, or maybe you should roll up characters until you get one that can be a Druid, I dunno. There's typically four camps when it comes to house-ruling 1E/2E D&D and class requirements:

1: Roll your stats and if you can't qualify for the class then you have to pick something else.
2: Roll your stats but you can move them and/or deduct 2 from a stat to put 1 on another in order to qualify (but not to get 18s or completely dump CHA or something). Or roll and then bump them up to qualify for the minimums of whatever class you want.
3: Pick a class and roll your stats using a system that pretty much guarantees you'll qualify. They have this in the Ranger's Handbook I know, maybe others, and in the 1E Unearthed Arcana.
4: Ignore stat requirements, but you'll be a bad Cleric with that 5 WIS.

So Rem would need to jump in and tell you what he wants you to do. BTB it'd be #1.

Generally the stat requirements are there (1) to make sure people of a certain race or class kinda feel right - no 3 STR Fighters or 3 CON Dwarves, and (2) to make those less common and thus more satisfying and precious to play. But if a DM cares more about letting players play what they want, which is also an important thing, he might value that more than the first two reasons.
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Re: AD&D- Hijinks of Undermountain- The Interest Check
« Reply #68 on: November 14, 2013, 09:27:11 pm »

Of course, I rerolled Charisma 9 times at least to get above 15 and rerolled Wis once, but apart from that, no problem.
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Am I allowed to reroll my mediocre stats?
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Re: AD&D- Hijinks of Undermountain- The Interest Check
« Reply #69 on: November 14, 2013, 09:28:04 pm »

If you're a coward sure.

I'll be doing a sheet sometime between now and the morning. Sorry for the delay.
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Re: AD&D- Hijinks of Undermountain- The Interest Check
« Reply #70 on: November 15, 2013, 12:42:21 pm »

Of course, I rerolled Charisma 9 times at least to get above 15 and rerolled Wis once, but apart from that, no problem.
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Am I allowed to reroll my mediocre stats?
I think a 5th level character with nothing over 12 is more impressive and interesting than a 20th level character with nothing under 15. An 18 DEX is like starting with +4 armor (and other amazing bonuses if the DM uses it in surprise and initiative), and an 17 STR is like starting with a +1 sword. Anybody can succeed when they have everything handed to them!

Now that I think about it, DEX is a lot more valuable than STR, at least until you start getting into 18/76 STR and higher. Wonder why?
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Re: AD&D- Hijinks of Undermountain- The Interest Check
« Reply #71 on: November 15, 2013, 02:24:06 pm »

My point was more that he should have to deal with stats he doesn't like if the rest of us do. Not that I'd mind being allowed to reroll some of my stats...
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Re: AD&D- Hijinks of Undermountain- The Interest Check
« Reply #72 on: November 15, 2013, 02:40:41 pm »

My point was more that he should have to deal with stats he doesn't like if the rest of us do. Not that I'd mind being allowed to reroll some of my stats...
Indeed. That's second edition :P.

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« Reply #73 on: November 15, 2013, 06:49:19 pm »

My point was more that he should have to deal with stats he doesn't like if the rest of us do. Not that I'd mind being allowed to reroll some of my stats...
Indeed. That's second edition :P.
I find it absolute hilarious/slightly disheartening that people are wanting to have such ridiculously high stats. They think that if you have a single stat under 10, you suck and deserve to die.
I have a 5 for strength. I could literally only lift 10 pounds before taking a penalty. Half of my stats are under 10, and I love it. I love having flawed characters because it's more fun.
Losing is fun.
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« Reply #74 on: November 15, 2013, 07:03:30 pm »

Especially since if you die you roll up a new one. Eventually you realize that statting up a precious snowflake is pointless because he's one bad surprise roll away from being disemboweled by a giant rat.

You get a character to survive one adventure and he gets a name. If Jimmy survives to level 2 he's probably developed some preferences, loves, hatreds, fears, and hopes for the future. What happens before 5th level is your backstory.
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