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Zammer990

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Tearing out organs
« on: November 03, 2013, 05:47:14 pm »

If you slice into someone's upper body, haven't you ever wanted to grab their heart and gouge it asunder? I think if you just sliced through someone's ribcage, plunging your fist in to remove their beating heart to gain their courage, before they even die, is very (macabrely) dwarfy. Currently, the only way to really do this results in organs that are just sitting on top of the upper body.
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Re: Tearing out organs
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2013, 12:38:57 am »

IMHO the best way to solve this is to be able to grab and tear out organs via wrestling. :V

Also, you then have to eat this heart in your victim's eyes for bonus badasssness.
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Re: Tearing out organs
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2013, 08:28:57 am »

Internal organs are remarkably hard to remove even using surgery, I don't think you could just rip them out. Besides, getting your hand inside someone's chest without proper instrumentation is pretty difficult even if the person in question isn't trying to kill you back.
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Re: Tearing out organs
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2013, 12:16:02 pm »

Already on the dev page:
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PowerGoal90, BY THE POWER OF MOTHRA, (Future): You say a prayer to Mothra in the face of your enemies and are filled with great strength. You rip the heart from the chest of your adversary and eat it in front of his quailing comrades.
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Re: Tearing out organs
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2013, 12:37:58 pm »

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Re: Tearing out organs
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2013, 08:38:39 pm »

Some potential specific mechanics:
An organ can be wrestled with a rather low hit chance if it is damaged enough.
Wrestling an already held organ attempts to rip it out, succeeding if the attacker has the strength to pull out the organ.
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Zammer990

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Re: Tearing out organs
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2013, 11:07:24 am »

Seems like a good idea, or maybe just the ability to put your hands into wounds if you grab the wounded part, then things like causing pain by twisting in a wound could happen, or tearing out organs.

Of course, given that 90% of organs in the game only serve as bloody painful sacs, your millitia would probably be better off removing the liver, kidney, pancreas, fingernails, fingers, lips and nose, just to be more effective in combat, a lot lighter too.
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Sirbug

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Re: Tearing out organs
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2013, 12:33:44 pm »

In Adventure mode one can disembowel enemy and then cut off his guts, if it makes you feel better.

My !!scientific!! researches about health hazards of this procedure so far were less then resultative though.
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Re: Tearing out organs
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2013, 04:31:15 pm »

The spilling then disembowelling mechanic is based on a tag something like [UNDER_PRESSURE], and always causes fatal bleeding. Unfortunately, do apply that to any other organ, you have a heart trailing behind them while you try and get a shot into their flailing heart.

But yes, it does comfort me.
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Re: Tearing out organs
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2013, 08:09:51 pm »

While I am indeed a fan of ripping and tearing huge guts, you'll probably strain your wrist or stub your finger removing the delicious organ chocolate.
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Zammer990

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Re: Tearing out organs
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2013, 07:22:32 pm »

Dwarves mine granite 11 months of the year, they can handle some toblerone splitting.
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Helari

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Re: Tearing out organs
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2013, 12:55:28 pm »

Even just the ability to target organs (or their approximate area on the bodypart) would be good. Also I'd bet we will be able to use magic on bodyparts like armok I sooner or later (magic such as part teleportation).

also damn there's something wrong with those japanese animes.
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Re: Tearing out organs
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2013, 04:41:58 pm »

I tried removing [SMALL] from the heart, but it remained untargetable, maybe there's a way to have the heart defined as behind all the tissues it needs to be behind, but severable using tags, but I don't know it
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Re: Tearing out organs
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2013, 09:50:12 am »

I tried removing [SMALL] from the heart, but it remained untargetable, maybe there's a way to have the heart defined as behind all the tissues it needs to be behind, but severable using tags, but I don't know it

The connection between bodyparts has to come before that. A giant can punch someone in the tongue and the the impact wont spread to the whole head. An archer can shoot a goblin in the eye and the arrow wont continue into the head. You can hit someone's tooth with a two handed sword with perfect accuracy without going through the jaw or grazing surrounding parts.

Generally there is alot to fix regarding bodyparts and combat.
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