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[Taricus]

Thanks to the homebrew rules, that is incorrect. Free Level Asjustment for every level you take in a Tier 5 class. Monks are a tier 5 class.

Edit: Err, okay, that's not totally correct, but it's what the Half-Dragon got. >.>

What I'm trying to say is that you'd be level ten when the rest of us are at level 6. A bit breaking that >.>

[Rolepgeek]

I'm also a Monk.

A Monk.

EDIT: Anyway, I doubt it'll happen either way. Holier Than Thou needs a skillmonkey and navigator.

I still can't figure out what Trackless Step should be replaced with.

May I trade Knowledge (dungeoneering) for Profession, Remuthra? And Handle Animal with Use Rope?

[Taricus]

And?

Also, said four levels will stop you getting any bonus monk powers available at 17th level and beyond.

[Remuthra]

>.> It only becomes an ultra monk at level 20. At level 6 it's just decent; only 8 shuriken a round, they get full AC, and not enough money for huge bonuses to damage.

This doesn't inspire my confidence.

I'm also a Monk.

A Monk.

EDIT: Anyway, I doubt it'll happen either way. Holier Than Thou needs a skillmonkey and navigator.

I still can't figure out what Trackless Step should be replaced with.

May I trade Knowledge (dungeoneering) for Profession, Remuthra? And Handle Animal with Use Rope?

I trust you know my ruling on this?

[Rolepgeek]

Considering I'd only be going to 11th level as a monk anyway.

I also don't see how it'd stop me from getting those, if Remuthra allows me to have the race and level 6 of monk.

Also, Taricus, Monks are generally agreed upon to be the worst core class. The worst. Look at the homebrew rules in the OP and see how they're described.

FAKEEDIT: I also don't get much to attack with, Remuthra. Flurry of Blows plus Rapid Shot plus TWF brings me down to +1/+1+1/-4 BAB with either hand. If I can take Yuan-Ti, it goes up to +5/+5/+5/+0 instead.

EDIT: I think ruling is yes if there's RP reason?

[Remuthra]

Considering I'd only be going to 11th level as a monk anyway.

I also don't see how it'd stop me from getting those, if Remuthra allows me to have the race and level 6 of monk.

Also, Taricus, Monks are generally agreed upon to be the worst core class. The worst. Look at the homebrew rules in the OP and see how they're described.

FAKEEDIT: I also don't get much to attack with, Remuthra. Flurry of Blows plus Rapid Shot plus TWF brings me down to +1/+1+1/-4 BAB with either hand. If I can take Yuan-Ti, it goes up to +5/+5/+5/+0 instead.

EDIT: I think ruling is yes if there's RP reason?

Yes.

[Rolepgeek]

Would a longspear fit in a Quiver of Ehlonna? Would a club?
For swim checks, I can base the amount I move off my fly speed, right? I think it makes sense; I can use my wings to move through the water, after all, probably more efficient than normal swimming.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Alternately, I got bored and ran some numbers.  8000 lb_f is around 36 kN.  Iron has an average Vickers hardness of 608 MPa, putting out an average deformation under that particular test force of 0.01 mm.  Running shear stress models using the shear stress modulus of 82 GPa (by contrast, wood has a typical stress modulus measured in kPa) and assuming an applied area of around 0.0077 m² (lowballing with a 1" diameter and a 1' length, since dimensions aren't given) doesn't give much better, with around 0.2mm of deformation for a 1" test length.  So, even some thin iron cladding on the prow alone should also fix the issue just as well, if my maths aren't incorrect.
^{It's probably a little weird that my first reaction to the issue was to reach for my slide rule...at least I didn't go for my old notes on impact forces and elastic deformations therein.}

Alright, so the immovable rod wouldn't be destroyed. Not that magic items can be destroyed by mundane means.
The question has more to do with wood. Would the ship stop, or would the hull break? It depends on speed and hull, and we have no answer.

Err, my response had nothing to do with the immovable rod - are they even made out of iron?  My thoughts had to do with the use of iron cladding on the ship's hull to stop the immovable rod from punching through the hull.

Oh. I see.
I'm not sure if the immovable rod would punch through a wooden hull. It depends on how much force the hull can withstand...

[Remuthra]

Would a longspear fit in a Quiver of Ehlonna? Would a club?
For swim checks, I can base the amount I move off my fly speed, right? I think it makes sense; I can use my wings to move through the water, after all, probably more efficient than normal swimming.

Yes, probably, and yes.

[Rolepgeek]

Can I replace Tuilvanue or whatever automatic language with Sylvan, Auran, or Elven?

[Remuthra]

Can I replace Tuilvanue or whatever automatic language with Sylvan, Auran, or Elven?

No, but you can also have Common.

[Rolepgeek]

I already have Common. I would have Common, Draconic, and Tuilulvanue or whatever it's called.

[My Name is Immaterial]

I was procrastinating instead of doing my homework, and drew a thematic map. Feel free to ignore it, Remuthra.

[Hanslanda]

ptw

[LeoLeonardoIII]

As for immovable rod vs. ship, think about what would happen when that ship struck an unmoving pillar of rock in the ocean. Do ships in that situation tend to get hull breaches and sink?

The rod is different, because it can support only 8000 lb. But also a creature can make a STR DC 30 check and push it 10', which means a creature with STR bonus +20 will be able to Take 10, that is, STR score of 50. You'd need a STR score of 30 minimum to have a chance at making that check.

Spoiler: The second Immovable Rod rule vs. the normal encumbrance rules (click to show/hide)

Or, by encumbrance, you can push or drag 5x your load, so a 30 STR character with a max heavy load of 1,600  could push/drag the rod at a Move 20 without any checks.

I guess what I'm saying is whoever wrote the second part about STR checks either didn't know math or didn't know / ignored the encumbrance rules.

Anyway, the rod cuts out at 8000 lb. force placed upon it. I think that's different from an 8000 lb. rod striking the ship. But certainly it's an instant effect because the rod doesn't keep putting 8000 lb. of resistance against the ship. The description says the rod "falls" not that it "slowly sinks".

After doing some research online this is really difficult if you've never gotten very far into physics courses. You've got force calculations and material strengths, and it's just too arcane for me.

Spoiler: football players (click to show/hide)

But eyeballing it, take a 6' guy weighing 200 lbs charging and it looks like he generates 1600 lb of force. So 8000 lb. is not something you would want to be struck by, but it's not going to knock over a building and I seriously doubt it would punch through a 6" beam.

Spoiler: pressure washers (click to show/hide)

Let's assume the rod is struck by the ship on-end, so we're looking at 8000 PSI. Wikipedia says a typical pressure washer generates 2000 PSI. This fellow has an 8000 PSI pressure washer which he demonstrates will chip away at the edge of a 2x4 with agonizing slowness. So 8000 PSI is not something you want to be hit by but it will not punch through a 2" board. Heck, I'd be surprised if a spurt from that pressure washer would punch through a 1/2" board. It might, but it would be dicey.

Spoiler: People falling onto Immovable Rods (click to show/hide)

Wiki says 1 kg exerts about 10 Newtons of force at sea level. Which means when the rod says it can support 8000 lb. (3,628.74 kg, let's round to 3,630 kg), it's able to support 36,300 Newtons of force. This becomes relevant when a falling person grabs the rod on the way down.

While I can't find anyone willing to give a damn straight answer as to how time spent accelerating affects the Newton equation, I did find some info that a jumper landing from a 1' jump will produce an instantaneous weight of about 5x their resting weight on a scale - which is basically what I wanted to know, just with a point of data instead of a useful table. [Citation Needed], amirite?

This Splat Calculator for climbers uses Joules, which don't seem quite right but I'm not sure how to explain that, and it gives the same number in Joules for a 1-meter fall as it should in Newtons for a resting, 0-meter "fall". By fiddling with it and checking the answers, a 70 kg human carrying 30 kg of armor and adventuring gear, total 100 kg, falling 36 meters, produces enough energy to blow out our Immovable Rod. 36 meters = about 118 feet.

Spoiler: Energy delivered by arrows (click to show/hide)

This paper on archery is pretty neat. He gives arrow energy as about 74 Joules. His arrows pierced leather, mail, and riveted mail, but wouldn't penetrate plate. Generally narrow arrowheads were better at piercing armor (surprise!). Needle-shaped heads would basically ignore leather and mail.

Anyway, what I wanted out of this was the energy delivered; 74 joules. So it's not appropriate to compare the Immovable Rod with an arrow, because the forces are so far out of proportion. I think the rod should be looked as more like one of those upright metal rods that keep cars from entering an area.

This has been your Poorly Researched Amateur Science Hour! We now return you to your regularly-scheduled optimizing.