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Author Topic: Birth of Oblivion- 3.5e D&D PbP  (Read 117546 times)

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Re: Birth of Oblivion- 3.5e D&D PbP
« Reply #270 on: October 29, 2013, 04:19:34 pm »

...Question: Are the other players allowed to attepmt said assassination themselves? >.>
Well, we will have two ships and crews. You could very well be foes :P.

And you can, providing you promise to roll up another character when the party kills you for it.

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« Reply #271 on: October 29, 2013, 04:20:56 pm »

What if we survive the retribution without anyone dying? :P
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Re: Birth of Oblivion- 3.5e D&D PbP
« Reply #272 on: October 29, 2013, 04:23:40 pm »

The tier system. It's a rough overview of the power levels of most classes. Wizards happen to be in the first tier along with clerics and druids, which indicated that they can easily break a game. I can provide a link to the whole thing if you'd like.
That is completely unrelated to the statement I quoted and asked you about.

If you want to use any of the established setting stuff, let me know so I can give you OOC knowledge about the topics in question.
Could you give me the name and some information on an Illumian Quill Cabal? Preferably one that got wiped out by fiends leaving my character as one of the only survivors giving me a convenient tragic past backstory. Then I'd use this as a motivation for my demonbinding tendencies, because I take a sick pleasure in forcing those like the ones who destroyed my home to serve me. If such a cabal doesn't exist then just a Quill Cabal will suffice. This is if it's okay for me to play a Illumian of course.

Also, you're fine with me playing a demon summoner who will eventually start making regular use of the planar bind line of spells right? I won't pull off any wish shenanigans or anything.
I have insurance policies for that, so yes, use your judgement.

The tier system. It's a rough overview of the power levels of most classes. Wizards happen to be in the first tier along with clerics and druids, which indicated that they can easily break a game. I can provide a link to the whole thing if you'd like.
I'm sort of relying on a sense of player fairness here. If someone's horribly overpowered, though, I will simply use one of several techniques I have prepared to attempt an assassination. If they survive that, they deserve to be overpowered.

@Lore Request: I'm sorry, Illumians are mostly manufactured elven mind-slaves (Elves in this setting are mostly Lawful Evil). The ones that are free, though, would probably set themselves up either on Rickshaw or back West.
...that, seems rather unintuitive. To survive being too cheesy you have to be so cheesy that all attempts to assassinate you fail and so you have "earned" your cheesiness?  ???

What exactly do you mean by insurance policies for my demon summoning? The aforementioned assassins? Or some nebulous threat you're not going to mention. Also, I'd like to emphasize this is my first time building a wizard and I'm not aiming for overpowered. I'm aiming for a specialist who summons demons.

@Illumian Lore: ...that's pretty lame actually. I liked the existing Illumian lore and that was one of my driving reasons or choosing them. This seems to throw it out wholesale. I'm probably going to change race now.
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« Reply #273 on: October 29, 2013, 04:27:02 pm »

It's probably just a teleportation into the plane of negative energy I guess :P
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« Reply #274 on: October 29, 2013, 04:28:11 pm »

And I stand corrected. Though still, I don't exactly approve of the decision to boost your wizard caster levels when that class happens to be horribly overpowered... (Wizard, not any of the prestige classes)
Since you ignored me, I'll ask again, more clearly this time. How am I "boosting" my wizard caster levels exactly? What the fuck are you talking about?
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« Reply #275 on: October 29, 2013, 04:30:35 pm »

By changing the Malconvoker's own casting progression into the one from your existing spellcasting class.

EDIT: Wait... It already does that as vanilla :X
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« Reply #276 on: October 29, 2013, 04:32:39 pm »

What if we survive the retribution without anyone dying? :P
You get roleplaying xp :P.

No, if you somehow survive the assassination attempts without blatant rulebreaking (Pun-pun), you've earned the right to live. If I sic a 20th level encounter on one level six character, I don't expect anything short of blind luck to save them.

Nothin'  8).

@Lore: Well, 1. I hadn't even heard of Illumians before now, so I hadn't accommodated them when worldbuilding, and 2. It's the sort of thing the elves would do with "A race created by sorcery", considering they have the most magic.

For that matter, why did you ask me to make custom lore if you liked the current lore for them so much?

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« Reply #277 on: October 29, 2013, 04:37:46 pm »

Maybe he was just confirming that it worked as-is in your game?
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Re: Birth of Oblivion- 3.5e D&D PbP
« Reply #278 on: October 29, 2013, 04:39:03 pm »

By changing the Malconvoker's own casting progression into the one from your existing spellcasting class.

EDIT: Wait... It already does that as vanilla :X
You're thinking about the Nar Demonbinder I asked about. And how is this is boosting me? Because if the dm didn't allow that then I'd simply take Thaumaturgist 3/Paragnostic Apostle 1/Master Specialist 3 instead, which is probably more optimized. The Demonbinder just has nice flavour backed up by decentish crunch except the godawful spellcasting mess.

@Lore: Well, 1. I hadn't even heard of Illumians before now, so I hadn't accommodated them when worldbuilding, and 2. It's the sort of thing the elves would do with "A race created by sorcery", considering they have the most magic.

For that matter, why did you ask me to make custom lore if you liked the current lore for them so much?

I asked you about cabals. If you wanted me to transplant the example cabals into the setting it's fine, or make up my own, but maybe I thought you'd want to make your own cabals, seeing as how they can have a significant effect on various political balances. Also, it's a bit more than just sorcery, like say with owlbears. They're words made flesh. They can talk Illumian a few days after they're born. Those sigils floating around their heads? Words in the Illumian language.
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Re: Birth of Oblivion- 3.5e D&D PbP
« Reply #279 on: October 29, 2013, 05:42:29 pm »

@GWG: Well, can't calc stat bonuses or the like. Not that it matters now since there is one (Though if someone can point me to a resource that has that race I would be happy)
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Page 37.

Possible Ship Names
S.S. Yes-Yes
S.S. Titan Destroyer
S.S. Gru-KaGeBoom
S.S. Never Sink
S.S. Coffer-Sir
S.S. Glub Glub
S.S. Fishbowl
S.S. Lookout
S.S. Night-Rider
S.S. Kraken Hat
S.S. Sicily
S.S. Nerjin
You left out gems like "S.S. D.D."

Steamship doesn't work for a caravel :P
What if we said the S.S. stands for Sailing Ship? This isn't Earth, you know.

...that, seems rather unintuitive. To survive being too cheesy you have to be so cheesy that all attempts to assassinate you fail and so you have "earned" your cheesiness?  ???
I agree. When your system of "earning" cheesiness becomes easier with increasing quantities of cheese...

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@Illumian Lore: ...that's pretty lame actually. I liked the existing Illumian lore and that was one of my driving reasons or choosing them. This seems to throw it out wholesale. I'm probably going to change race now.
I won't condemn the lore...but yeah, it is a bit of a downer...and could use some work to make it make sense...

I asked you about cabals. If you wanted me to transplant the example cabals into the setting it's fine, or make up my own, but maybe I thought you'd want to make your own cabals, seeing as how they can have a significant effect on various political balances. Also, it's a bit more than just sorcery, like say with owlbears. They're words made flesh. They can talk Illumian a few days after they're born. Those sigils floating around their heads? Words in the Illumian language.
When they die, they release the Illumian language stored inside of them in a weird babble. The floaty magical sigils give them magical powers. It's a complex bit of work, and little surprise that the guy who figured it out in the original canon is a god now. (Admittedly for unrelated reasons.)
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Re: Birth of Oblivion- 3.5e D&D PbP
« Reply #280 on: October 29, 2013, 05:56:09 pm »

Really, a wizard is overpowered regardless of any prestige classes, it just gets a degree of being more overpowered. I'd be fine if you switched wizard out for sorcerer, since there's less potential for abuse there. Besides, summoning a demon right in the middle of a fight would be hilarious.

Other thing would be the backstory, it doesn't really qualify for evil (Insofar to be pillaging/kicking kittens evil at any rate). We do have two ships/parties though. And a request for everyone that hasn't gotten a sheet down is to post what they intend to play as (Just class, alignment and race) so we can see who goes on what ship so there isn't too many ideological conflicts.

@GWG: Meh, the S.S bit just sounds... Boring perhaps. Not to mention most ships of the era were only given the name, without any ship identification stamped onto it (And I doubt anywhere has a standardised system for ships either.)
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« Reply #281 on: October 29, 2013, 06:03:43 pm »

So....

After my build got hit with the nerfbat, I thought it over for a few days. There were several different ways I could have remade my wizard, but the frustration of having the cool idea I had yanked out from under me made me decide to go a different direction, and I rolled up a barbarian with a rage fetish(emphasized by the level in Frenzied Berserker), linked here.
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No. I suppose there are similarities, but I'm fairly certain angry birds doesn't let me charge into a battalion of knights with a car made of circular saws.

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« Reply #282 on: October 29, 2013, 06:08:19 pm »

@GWG: Meh, the S.S bit just sounds... Boring perhaps. Not to mention most ships of the era were only given the name, without any ship identification stamped onto it (And I doubt anywhere has a standardised system for ships either.)
But then we couldn't name the ship the S.S.D.D!
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« Reply #283 on: October 29, 2013, 06:10:49 pm »

I doubt many people would respect a ship that has a name that sounds like STD. Not really good for a pirate's reputation :P
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« Reply #284 on: October 29, 2013, 06:10:56 pm »

I was thinking of something a bit prosaic, like The Wings of the Sea
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