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[Cydus]

I'm having some trouble figuring out exactly how to use a lot of the new optional plants and stuff. So I wanted to try growing some onions, and carrots, and squash, and make a bunch of stew for my hard working little fellows. I also thought it would amuse me to has onion lasagna, onion tarts, onion dumplings... you get the idea. But I can't grow them. I buy seeds for stuff on embark, carrots, onions and the like, and there's just no option to grow them. Am I mistaken in thinking that I can at all? Am I just embarking to the wrong biome? And if not, why are there seeds that I can buy, but can't figure out how to jam in the ground and make prosper?

[LMeire]

Having grown carrots and squash myself, I'm pretty sure it's a biome thing.

[Varyag]

Can't say anything for this version but can confirm biome being main cause in earlier iterations of optional plants. If you can't grow the non-standard plants then biome is likely culprit.

Am i the only one who thinks it would be funny to try and replicate various random df meals in real life? Onion dumplings sounds like a good challenge

[Cydus]

Alright then. A follow up question. What exactly is the correct biome for leeks, for onions, and for carrots and squash? Or where can I find this information?  And no, onion dumplings sound delicious, and I would totally make them.

[LMeire]

I'd try grasslands and hills, maybe savannah. Since they're human plants, I imagine they should grow in areas that humans prefer to settle. Edit: Jungles and swamps might be a good bet too, since many of the "traditional" crops westerners are familiar with weren't actually available until after they were brought back to Europe from the Americas and Africa and domesticated there.

[Meph]

Plant Name   Biome   Subterranean   Season   Drink   Extract   Create thread   Dye   Can mill   Can poison
Black Currant   Temperate Shrubland   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   
Wild Blackberry   Any Temperate Broadleaf (Forests)   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   Purple   
Wild Blueberry   Any Temperate Broadleaf (Forests)   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   
Bramble Berry   Any Temperate Wetland   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   
Elder Berry   Temperate Shrubland   No   Spr, Sum, Aut   Yes   Yes   No   No   
Fen Berry   Any Temperate Wetland   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   
Red Currant   Temperate Shrubland   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   
Red Grape   Not Freezing   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   
Red Mulberry   Any Temperate Broadleaf (Forests)   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   Purple   
Snow Berry   Forest Taiga   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   
White Grape   Not Freezing   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   
Wolf Berry   Tropical Freshwater Swamp   No   N/A ?   Yes   Yes   No   No   
Plant Name   Biome   Subterranean   Season   Drink   Extract   Create thread   Dye   Can mill   Can poison
Blue Lotus   Any Temperate Wetland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   
Wild Canna   Tropical Grassland   No   All   Yes   No   Yes   Purple   
Wild Cassava   Temperate Savanna   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   Leaf   
Wild Dandelion   Any Temperate   No   All   Yes   No   No   Light Brown   
Wild Daffodil   Any Temperate   No   All   No   Yes   No   
Yes
Dog Bane   Any Temperate Broadleaf (Forests)   No   All   No   Yes   Yes   No   
Yes
Field Tulip   Any Temperate   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   
Yes
Fleece Flower   Any Temperate   No   All   No   No   No   No   
Henna Flower   Desert Badland   No   All   No   No   No   Rust   
Wild Hibiscus   Any Temperate   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   
Wild Honeysuckle   Temperate Shrubland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   
Hyacinth   Tropical Shrubland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   
Indigo Flower   Tropical Savanna   No   All   No   No   No   Indigo   
Klamath Weed   Temperate Grassland   No   All   No   No   No   Flax   
Wild Lavender   Tropical Shrubland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   
Marsh Root   Any Temperate Wetland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   
Morning Glory   Any Temperate   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   
Wild Orchid   Any Grassland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   
Pink Carnation   Any Grassland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   
Red Jute   Tropical Shrubland   No   All   No   No   Yes   No   
Wild Rose/Rose Bush   Temperate Shrubland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   Leaf   
River Lily   Any Temperate Wetland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   
Wild Safflower   Desert Badland   No   All   No   Yes   No   Carmine   
Wild Saffron   Temperate Savanna   No   All   No   No   No   Saffron   
Wild Sage   Temperate Grassland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   
Sea Dew   Temperate Shrubland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   
Wild Sage   
Sun Flower   Temperate Savanna   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   
Wild Violet   Any Shrubland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   
Vanilla Flower/Bean   Tropical Moist Broadleaf Forest   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   
Woad Flower   Rock Desert   No   All   No   No   No   Cobalt   Leaf   
Plant Name   Biome   Subterranean   Season   Drink   Extract   Create thread   Dye   Can mill   Can poison
Wild Banana   Tropical Moist Broadleaf Forest   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   
Bell Pepper   Tropical Shrubland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   
Bottle Gourd   Tropical Shrubland   No   All   No   No   No   No   
Wild Cucumber   Tropical Shrubland   No   All   No   No   No   No   
Currant Tomato   Tropical Freshwater Swamp   No   All   No   No   No   No   
Wild Eggplant   Tropical Shrubland   No   All   No   No   No   No   
Wild Kiwifruit   Tropical Moist Broadleaf Forest   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   
Musk Melon   Tropical Shrubland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   
Sweet Pineapple   Tropical Freshwater Swamp   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   
Wild Pumpkin   Any Temperate Broadleaf (Forests)   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   
Summer Squash   Any Temperate Broadleaf (Forests)   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   
Vine Tomato   Temperate Shrubland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   
Water Melon   Any Tropical Wetland   No   All   Yes   No   No   No   
Wolf Apple   Temperate Savanna   No   All   No   No   No   No   
Shrub Tomato   
Plant Name   Biome   Subterranean   Season   Drink   Extract   Create thread   Dye   Can mill   Can poison
Forest Shroom   Any Forest   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   
Oyster Shroom   Any Forest   No   All   No   No   No   No   
Black Truffle   Any Temperate Broadleaf (Forests)   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   
Summer Truffle   Any Temperate Broadleaf (Forests)   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   
White Truffle   Any Temperate Broadleaf (Forests)   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   
Plant Name   Biome   Subterranean   Season   Drink   Extract   Create thread   Dye   Can mill   Can poison
Barley Grass   Tropical Grassland   No   All   Yes   No   No   No   Yes   
Beech Wheat/Buckwheat   Tropical Grassland   No   All   Yes   No   No   No   Yes   
Fadeless Flower   Tropical Savanna   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   Yes   
Lemon Grass   Tropical Grassland   No   All   No   No   No   No   
Loom Blossom/Flax   Tropical Freshwater Swamp   No   All   No   No   Yes   No   Yes   
Love Grass   Tropical Grassland   No   All   Yes   No   No   No   
Wild Maize   Temperate Shrubland   No   All   Yes   No   No   No   Yes   
Millet Grass   Temperate Shrubland   No   All   Yes   No   No   No   Yes   
Golden Bloom   Temperate Grassland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   Yes   
Wild Oat   Temperate Grassland   No   All   Yes   No   No   No   Yes   
Wild Rice   Tropical Freshwater Swamp   No   All   Yes   No   No   No   Yes   
Rye Grass   Temperate Grassland   No   All   Yes   No   No   No   Yes   
Wild Sesame   Any Tropical   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   Yes   
Sugar Cane   Tropical Grassland   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   Yes   
Bread Wheat   N/A?   No   All   Yes   No   No   No   Yes   
Plant Name   Biome   Subterranean   Season   Drink   Extract   Create thread   Dye   Can mill   Can poison
Black Pepper   Tropical Shrubland   No   All   No   No   No   No   
Wild Broccoli   Temperate Shrubland   No   All   No   No   No   No   
Wild Carrot   Temperate Shrubland   No   All   No   No   No   No   
Wild Celery   Any Temperate Broadleaf (Forests)   No   N/A ?   No   No   No   No   
Curling Kale   Temperate Shrubland   No   All   No   No   No   No   Leaf   
Flower Cabbage   Temperate Savanna   No   All   No   No   No   No   
Fork Root   Temperate Shrubland   No   All   No   No   No   No   
Wild Garlic   Any Grassland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   Leaf   
Ginger Root   Tropical Shrubland   No   All   Yes   No   No   No   Yes   
Gray Shallot   Any Grassland   No   All   No   No   No   No   Yes   
Green Cabbage   Temperate Grassland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   Leaf   
Wild Leek   Temperate Shrubland   No   All   No   No   No   No   
Wild Lettuce   Temperate Grassland   No   All   No   No   No   No   Leaf   
Wild Okra   Tropical Shrubland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   Leaf   
Wild Onion   Any Grassland   No   All   No   No   No   No   Yes   
Quick Root   Not Freezing   No   All   No   No   No   No   
Red Beet   Temperate Shrubland   No   All   Yes   No   No   No   Leaf   
Wild Rhubarb   Tropical Shrubland   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   
Rush Bulbs   Any Shrubland   No   All   No   No   No   No   
Satchel Root   Temperate Shrubland   No   All   No   No   No   No   Leaf   
Sparrow Grass   Any Shrubland   No   All   No   No   No   No   
Wild Spinach   Tropical Shrubland   No   All   No   No   No   No   Leaf   
Spring Green   Temperate Shrubland   No   All   No   No   No   No   Leaf   
Sugar Beet   Temperate Shrubland   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   
Sweet Potato/Sweet Spud   Tropical Shrubland   No   All   Yes   No   No   No   
Wild Turnip   Temperate Shrubland   No   All   No   No   No   No   
Water Cress   Any Wetland   No   All   No   No   No   No   Leaf   
Water Yam   Any Tropical Wetland   No   All   Yes   No   No   No   
Yellow Yam   Tropical Shrubland   No   All   No   No   No   No   
Plant Name   Biome   Subterranean   Season   Drink   Extract   Create thread   Dye   Can mill   Can poison
Cave Barley   Subterranean Water (in water)   Yes   Sum, Aut   Yes   No   No   No   Yes   
Green Lichen   Subterranean Water (in water)   Yes   All   Yes   No   No   No   
Pale Oat   Subterranean Water (in water)   Yes   Sum, Aut   Yes   No   No   No   Yes   
Pearly Bloom   Subterranean Water (in water)   Yes   All   Yes   No   No   No   
Stone Flower   Subterranean Water (in water)   Yes   Spr, Sum   Yes   No   No   No   Yes   
White Millet   Subterranean Water (in water)   Yes   Sum, Aut   Yes   No   No   No   Yes   
Cavern Rye   Subterranean Water (in water) Lv.2   Yes   Sum, Aut   Yes   No   No   No   Yes   
Chasm Berry   Subterranean Water (in water) Lv.2   Yes   All   Yes   No   No   No   
Cocoa Cup   Subterranean Water (in water) Lv.2   Yes   Spr, Sum   Yes   Yes   No   No   Yes   
Ghost Cap   Subterranean Water (in water) Lv.2   Yes   All   No   No   No   No   Yes   
Grotto Berry   Subterranean Water (in water) Lv.2   Yes   Spr, Sum   Yes   Yes   No   No   
Honey Stalk   Subterranean Water (in water) Lv.2   Yes   Spr, Sum   Yes   Yes   No   No   Yes   
Ink Vine   Subterranean Water (in water) Lv.2   Yes   All   No   No   No   No   Yes   
Moss Grain   Subterranean Water (in water) Lv.2   Yes   Sum, Aut   Yes   No   No   No   Yes   
Spud Mold   Subterranean Water (in water) Lv.2   Yes   All   Yes   No   No   No   Yes   
Troll Toe   Subterranean Water (in water) Lv.2   Yes   All   No   No   Yes   No   Yes   
Wooly Gill   Subterranean Water (in water) Lv.2   Yes   Sum, Aut   No   No   Yes   No   No   
Blood Stalk   Subterranean Water (in water) Lv.3   Yes   Sum, Aut, Win   Yes   No   No   No   Yes   
Slither Weed   Subterranean Water (in water) Lv.3   Yes   Aut, Win   No   No   No   No   Yes   
Plant Name   Biome   Subterranean   Season   Drink   Extract   Create thread   Dye   Can mill   Can poison
Barrel Cactus   Desert Badland   No   All   No   No   No   No   
Century Star   Desert Badland   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   
Prickly Pear   Desert Badland   No   All   No   No   No   No   
Spined Cactus   Desert Badland   No   All   No   No   No   No   
Bracken Fern   Any Temperate Wetland   No   All   Yes   No   No   No   Yes Leaf   
Cinnamon Fern   Any Wetland   No   All   No   No   No   No   Leaf   
Ostrich Fern   Any Temperate Broadleaf (Forests)   No   All   No   No   No   No   Leaf   
Vegetable Fern   Tropical Moist Broadleaf Forest   No   All   No   No   No   No   Leaf   
Red Kelp   Temperate Ocean   No   All   No   No   No   No   Yes   
Tea Plant   Tropical Grassland   No   All   Yes   ?   No   No   Leaf   
Plant Name   Biome   Subterranean   Season   Drink   Extract   Create thread   Dye   Can mill   Can poison
Broad Bean   Any Tropical Forest   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   Yes   
Chick Pea   Any Tropical Forest/Tropical Shrub-   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   Yes   
Cow Pea   Tropical Shrubland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   Yes   
Wild Lentil   Not Freezing   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   Yes   
Wild Licorice   Temperate Shrubland   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   
Wild Lupin   Any Shrubland   No   All   No   No   No   No   Yes   
Wild Pea   Temperate Savanna   No   All   No   No   No   No   Yes   
Wild Peanut   Temperate Savanna   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   Yes   
Snap Bean   Any Temperate Broadleaf (Forests)   No   All   No   No   No   No   Yes   
Soy Bean   Tropical Shrubland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   Yes   
Sweet Pea   Any Tropical Broadleaf (Forests)   No   All   No   No   No   No   Yes   
Velvet Bean   Any Tropical Broadleaf (Forests)   No   All   No   No   No   No   Yes   
Winged Bean   N/A?   No   All   No   No   No   No   Yes   
Plant Name   Biome   Subterranean   Season   Drink   Extract   Create thread   Dye   Can mill   Can poison
Anise Herb   Tropical Shrubland   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   
Basil Seed/Wild Basil   Any Tropical Broadleaf (Forests)   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   Leaf   
Cat Mint   Any Temperate Broadleaf (Forests)   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   Leaf   
Common Thyme   Sand Desert   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   
Dragon Herb   Temperate Shrubland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   
Fennel Herb   N/A?   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   
Field Mint   Temperate Grassland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   Leaf   
Wild Marjoram   N/A?   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   Leaf   
Pepper Mint   Any Temperate Wetland   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   Leaf   
Purple Mint   Any Temperate Forest   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   Leaf   
Red Mint   Temperate Grassland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   Leaf   
Rock Parsley   Any Tropical Broadleaf (Forests)   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   Leaf   
Spear Mint   Any Temperate Wetland   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   Leaf   
Water Mint   Any Temperate Wetland   No   All   No   Yes   No   No   Leaf   
Wooly Mint   Temperate Savanna   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   Leaf   
Wild Wormwood   Temperate Shrubland   No   All   Yes   Yes   No   No   

[Cydus]

Thanks a lot for the list! Looks like I'm going to a shrubland!

[ElenaRoan]

was just looking at that list and thinking it would benefit from going on the wiki in sortable format. Just can't figure out which page it should go on.

[Meph]

you already have this file, "New Plants Guide.htm", in the MasterworDwarfFortress/repository folder.. its part of the manual.

[Cydus]

I looked through that file actually. I just somehow managed to miss the biome specifications. Anyway, back to making a fort that just consumes various preparations of leeks, carrots, and sweetpods.

[ElenaRoan]

you already have this file, "New Plants Guide.htm", in the MasterworDwarfFortress/repository folder.. its part of the manual.

able to be sorted? that's what defeats me every time I look at the list there, though the last time was several versions ago.