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Re: Destroy the Planet!
« Reply #165 on: October 14, 2013, 01:43:16 pm »

Holy crap, that's a lot of posts... Well, procrastination isn't gonna make it any easier for me... So... Here we go.

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Construction

Increase the orbit of our stations to beyond geostationary orbit, by adding engines to them. The exodus has commenced.

Research
Develop space station sized cloaking shields.
Develop Laser point defense weaponry
Work on a special nanomaterial and nanotechnologies.
Genetically modify some methane eating bacteria (The idea is to multiply these, dump them on Calthrate deposits(Which are found on the edge of continental plateau's). Wait a year or two, and watch as a global megatsunami occurs.)

War
Let's solve the space debris problem. Make a small automated garbage collector robot. Useful material is recycled. The rest is dumped back to Earth, often at Sunshine facilities.
Construct Orbital EMP satellites. Take potshots at Sunshine facilities, and other enemy installations.
Nuke La Palma, on the Canarian islands. The idea is to destabilize the volcano, sending a megaTsunami barreling down elimating the American coast and a significant part of Europe.
Laser Orbital defense sattelites.
Release simallpox in pro Sunshine locations, target Sunshine facilities.
Any vaccination locations will be Anthrax bombed.
Oh, and deal with those frigates.

You extend the orbit of your facilities.
You recycle space debris and what you can't recycle, you shoot at the Sunshine Squad. They do have some better recycling equipment down on Earth, so they actually salvage some of it.
You develop imperfect cloaking, good enough to hide from the folks earthside and laser point defense weapons. You start development of new nanotechnologies. You also create orbital EMP weapons. You hit some S.S. facilites, but the damage is quickly repaired. You'll need to do something bigger if you really want to cause damage with EMPs.
You nuke La Palma, destabilizing the volcano and causing a minor eruption. It causes tsunamis on the Atlantic coast, damaging the US East coast and western Europe, among other places. No huge megatsunamis though.
You release the smallpox. Vaccination is prevented by anthrax bombings. All SADISTS associates are vaccinated, so they suffer no losses.
You manage to sabotage one of the frigates, but the rest are intact.
You also create some GM methane consuming bacteria. They are deployed and so the timebomb begins ticking.

Screw it, do it live practicality

Research anti-matter bombs
Screw it, do it live practicality

Research anti-matter bombs
Orbital Particle arcelerators should be capable of getting you some amounts of antimatter.

Well, you don't have orbital particle accelerators yet. No antimatter research can be done at the moment.

Sadists
Improve the AI in a second version of the Supercomnputers. Send the new supervirus to Moscow, Beijing, Delhi, Berlin, Paris, London and Rome. Spare the Americans. Start a media campaign going through various sociological layers, claiming that the Americans want total war, and that Sunshine Squad is working with them. The media campaign should range from crazy conspiracy theories, but also some news coverage from each land showing the suffering, raising war likeness for these countries.

Researched improved solar technology. Construct a moonbase. Research cold fusion. Let your biologists look for the best genes amongst the SADISTS' members (both male genes and female genes) and try to reproduce these genes artificially, giving raw genetic material.

Work on a cure for the supervirus.


You release the supervirus. It kills hundreds of millions all over the world. And now you develop a cure for the supervirus. About time, huh?
The S.S. only lets censored media get to the people, while blocking out all the rest. Some of the guerrillas do launch some broadcasts from time to time though.
You get more efficient solar panels and you build a Moonbase! Costly, but definitely worth it. You get some genetic data from the best SADISTS members, ready to be used. You start research on cold fusion, but it is far from complete.

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Give blueprints of all advanced tank designs to all Anti-S.S. governments.
Have weapons guys design advanced explosives. Test-fire prototypes on S.S. facilities.
Fill skyscraper with a nuke and a load of explosives. Detonate.
Design a large Space-To-Earth shuttle, capable of carrying a large amount of equipment. Set up space-based manufacturing facilities.
Begin refining of fuel from asteroids.
Hijack the ISS. Knock satellites owned by pro-S.S. countries out of orbit. Preferably onto the aforementioned countries.
Carry out massive 'we are the lesser evil' propaganda campaign.


The tank blueprints will be put to use by anti-S.S. governments now.
"Advanced" is a pretty vague term. In what are they advanced exactly?
You nuke the skyscraper. I'll assume it was in some large city and it was a pretty memorable skyscraper. The people aren't exactly delighted by this.
Reusable transport shuttles were already in use, even by the S.S. when they were working on their first asteroid mining facility. You do make larger ones, however.
How do you plan to extract fuel from asteroids? There sure isn't any oil in them, so what do you plan on using?
You take control of the ISS and knock enemy satellites out of orbit. You take control of Earth's orbit. For now.
The people aren't exactly convinced now, as you released the pandemics. But some people still are.

Oh I see A very simple thing, we the sadists can do,

Begin building Robotics, if possible nano-robotics, Build them A "hive" mind, give them the ability to speak, hunt and destroy
Arm the little ones with matter manipulators or otherwise miniature mandibles, Allow them to build themselves easily,  Build there circuits up out of A hardy and non-volatile substance, Make them able to come together to form bigger things, forming into big things, or small things, be it form tools to guns to Space ships, they are able to perceive the worst, are able to recycle there dead brethren, and then finally, I shall Ascend into there hive mind.

Ill choose what they do depending on how sucessful.

You only started nanotech research now, so it won't be possible to have nanites this advanced anytime soon.

Send our GM soldiers on a mission to find, secure, and capture sunshine jets . Send a back up of 800 soldiers, with our GM leading the stealth op, and our regulars as a distraction. Let loose the virus in the enemy base, if we have enough after using it on the world.

The jet base has guards in hazmat suits, so the viruses won't do much to them. The mission to hijack the jets is not successful.

Join poketwo's faction if he'll have me, and start the One Humanity Front if not.

Either way...

Begin training volunteer troops, and open recruitment rolls, The Sunshine Squad and SADISTS are both terrible after all.
Attempt to secure terrestrial mining facilities and oil refining centers using volunteers as both workers and guards.

Yes, you join up with him and some mining stations defect to you. They are operated by people who think neither side is good enough to support.

The volcanism thing is a joke about your last game, dear GM, where every turn involved pumping more CO2 into the atmosphere via the help of vulcanos.  :P

Oh, right. That... Now I remember. Holy hell, that was repetitive back then  :P

Well shit, everything went better than i expected it to. No going back now i guess.

Appropriate the best of every Sunshine Nation's military into our forces, and acquire as many nukes as possible from the U.S.

Begin constructing bunkers deep underground, each capable of supporting a self-sustaining society for at least several hundred years. (think the vaults from Fallout).

Begin distributing small-pox vaccines to the populace, shouldn't do much, but it will galvanize the public towards us.

Direct all appropriated nukes and other missiles capable of reaching space towards the SADIST facilities, try to shoot down as many of the SADIST orbitals before they can escape.

Locate the SADIST asteroid facilities using radio and visual telescopes, we should already know where one is considering it was ours. Naturally if we find them, launch missiles at them.

Put a vote through the U.N security council to publicly denounce the SADISTS and declare official support for the Sunshine Squad, being the U.N it can't do much but hey, P.R.

Begin researching Cloning, Sustainable energy, and draw up multiple disaster evaluation plans for all possible scenarios to increase world readiness in case of disaster.

Offer china full and total control of Korea (both north and south) and Taiwan if they support the sunshine squad, encourage the U.S to renounce Taiwan's claim to mainland china and withdraw their support from them. Additionally offer any small Asian country they care to have.

Offer Russia their choice of countries in eastern Europe including Finland, the Baltic States, Poland, Romania, and Ukraine if they agree to support us.

Offer India the territory of Kashmir and all of Pakistan in exchange for support.

Assuming the Big 3 have fallen in line, bully the remaining nations to our side, if they refuse, invade them and share the spoils among the Sunshine Squad. Also invade and occupy all the promised nations, try not to wreck them too badly.

Use the SADISTS intentions to use WMDs to destroy mankind as evidence for declaring them enemies to all mankind, and glorify the sunshine squad as mankind's defenders once more.

Most military hardware should already be EMP shielded, but make sure to reinforce whatever isn't.

Direct the labor and resources of all Pro-sunshine nations to aid our cause (hopefully) greatly increasing our resource production.

Begin international construction of a missile defense system based off of the already extant U.S. system.

Continue hunting down all SADIST secret bases and military, no prisoners are to be taken. Utilize international forces to this effect.

Use any and all remaining resources cleaning up radiation and quarantining all major disease outbreaks (With extreme force if necessary).


Shit is just continuing to get more and more real.
The US agree to hand over 1,000 warheads to the S.S.
You construct vaults. Do these come with crazy ass experiments too?
You distribute smallpox vaccines. Yes, it made the public a bit more supportive.
You denounce the SADISTS once again and glorify yourself. That does a bit for the PR too.
You research cloning and succesfully clone the first human. Clone armies aren't an option at the moment however, as it takes time for the clones to grow to adulthood and the first clones are still only babies.
Getting the 3 mentioned countries in line is not as easy as it seemed. Russia gets their claims on Eastern Europe, but they also claim Mongolia, while China does so too. China also claims a part of Kashmir for themselves and they always had a cordial relationship toward the DPRK.
You arm the remaining militiary equipment with EMP shields.
Many countries direct their resources toward the Sunshine Squad.
You take out some guerrilla camps, but SADISTS presence or Earth is far from erradicated.
You clean up radiation as best you can and you quarantine the main disease outbreaks.
Launching missiles at SADISTS satellites is not possible, the best you have are ICBMs. And they are only intercontinental. You'll have to develop better missiles than that, so they can reach LEO. Or get into space at all. Once you get the frigates you'll be able to do something about SADISTS in space too.

Build point defense systems into every station.

Done.

Cleverly note that since all nuclear systems were intended to be used against terrestrial targets, the ICBM's they're mounted on are not strong enough to reach LEO. Additionally, they can't detonate in vacuum.

Also point out that the US missile defense system is also intended against ground launched targets. I mean, shooting a large rocket that's slowly arcelerating on a plume of hot gas is easy. Shooting a cloaked warhead that's coming down at Mach 5, is not.

Edit: The mining facility is a ship. It can move. Which we did. I suppose

Begin production of Nuclear warheads on the station.

Well, the warheads could detonate, it's just that they wouldn't do much. Only release radiation and an EMP at most. Not very effective in space combat.
You produce some warheads using the uranium you have.

SADIST
Cleverly broadcast messages of dissent all across the globe. Try to make people believe that the governments want to go all Holocaust on them (which they kinda want) promoting anarchism and destruction love as the new way of being.

(on a different note, I almost feel as if we are the good guys, if it wasn't for the third faction)

Some people embrace destruction. They do want to move on from the planet. Earth is in the past, space is the future! You gain new supporters, among the people. The governments don't change much. But you do have more guerrillas now.

Defect from the Sunshine squad and form my own faction centered on a military colony base on the moon. When I defect take the sunshine special forces, 10,000 sunshine regulars and one of the space frigates with me.
Build mining facilities on the moon and solar arrays to provide tons of power.
Sell said excess power to anyone willing to give metal in exchange for it.

You take some willing soldiers (not as many as you wanted, but hey) with you to the Moon. You have a lot of solar panels, but you don't have any metal. No one has bought it yet.

Nuking yellowstone with nukes we don't have was one of them.
Which is more impractical, faking a space company to make a massive moon base or nuking Yellowstone to trigger a supervolcano?

Also: Dammit L.W. Burns, we weren't supposed to turn this into 1984, we were supposed to stop Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy! Well, the initial scenes at least. And aliens instead of crazies. There are remarkably few stories where humans deliberately destroy Earth, you know that?

Wonder how the SADISTSs are creating all this ultratech when they have virtually no support.

Create an official world government
(I'm imagining something like the Hegemony from the Ender's Game universe) and hold elections for various positions.

Continue training and advanced training.

Create research bases and uranium-refinement centers.

Research combat drones.

The SADISTS have some good scientists with them. Sociopaths and outcasts willing to go further than anyone else, mainly.
You create a world government. Most pro-S.S. countries join reluctantly. You get more soldiers and spec ops.
You seize already present uranium refinement facilities and research centres and use them yourself.

Perhaps not a current design, but it would be easily modifiable to accomplish the task. Simply because it can't with current design doesn't mean it couldnt with a few simple modifications. Im not talking about an unmodified ICBM after-all, a few extra solid fuel boosters, or hell even fitting an actual orbital rocket with the warheads,  would be more than capable at providing the required extra thrust. (although it is certainly more complex than that, it is the gist). And the same thing for fitting a rudimentary reaction control system to guide the re-entry vehicle during space-flight.

Either way the GM will decide, it's not as if most of whats happening in this game is even remotely feasible.  :P

Edit: Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy you say? Then i know exactly what to do!

Acquire towel, use towel to save the world.

I feel like I'm missing out on a lot, not having read Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy :( Oh well, I always wanted to read it eventually! Or at least watch the movie...

Begin constructing bunkers deep underground, each capable of supporting a self-sustaining society for at least several hundred years. (think the vaults from Fallout).
Begin researching methods to extend their lifespan indefinitely.


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Continue hunting down all SADIST secret bases and military, no prisoners are to be taken. Utilize international forces to this effect.
Use covert-ops teams to take prisoners in the form of scientists, leadership, and the like before these killsquads move in.

On that note, send some of the special forces in to capture these uber-scientists of the SADISTSs.

Extending the vaults' lifespans is possible, but they will have to take up more space. And they will have to have more than just a couple hundred people in them, to prevent inbreeding.
SADISTS has all the important people on their space stations. Once you have your frigates, you can do something about that.

develop this world's equivalent of the FEV
Give truth to warhammer 40k fans and tell them the sunshine squad destroyed games workshop, profit from the resulting massive NERD RAGE.
Develop laser weaponry and canons.
Create an elite force of agents, spies, and solders called EXALT, have them forward my bidding in places like The US, EU, and china.
Have agents do missions stealing tech from both fractions very covertly, and infiltrate the others, as they are my finest in stealth.
spies doing stuff to get the government to my side.
and have the X-COM style missions in things like getting data on fractions and harassing the ground
Recruit people from spacebattles AND bay12 to serve as my RND department.
Finally, Found Front Gate Industries, and the first project involves harnessing the power of the ELECTRIC EEL using GENETICS and CHEMISTRY!!!!
Allow the new guy in, as this fraction will be a more liberal approach to the Imperium of  Man. 


You acquire said technologies and start developing an FEV-type virus. You recruit scientists and agents. The scientists start the genetic research. The FEV should soon be ready.

I humbly ask that Sunshine squad does not look into these spoilers, as it'd be cheating to know about every little flaw of every little thing we have on our nanites, it'd be cheating, go discover them your self, but if you want, go ahead And if you DO look, please dont use it for your plans, just for story .

Adding onto my nanobot post

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This is what I can come up with A bit of thinking, You guys can come up with more designs, and change there names if you wish.

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And, on the subject of what those darned nanites do!

Spoiler: nanites (click to show/hide)

Well, these seem rather doable. But it will require large amounts of resources to actually mass produce these in any way.

sorry we don't control the Vatican... yet
i second the veto
also i wish to start research into engineering virus's as a vector to deliver genetic code in mass to plants particularly cereal crops like wheat and rice
and make moves to take control of the Vatican and make it our puppet


Using the genetic code, you create kinds of rice and wheat that can grow in zero G. That will definitely help SADISTS efforts.
The Pope is not very excited about taking orders from a group of madmen, but he and his lot aren't keen on the S.S. either. You take some steps to make him more cordial toward SADISTS.
((Did you mean to veto your plans to move the orbits of the NEOs too?))

You analyze the possibilities of setting near Earth objects on collision courses. There are a couple asteroids that could be set on a collision course, but for comets it's pretty much impossible at the moment. You'd have to modify the orbit when they are quite far away, i.e. in the Kuiper Belt and other faraway places. You design engines that can be attached to asteroids and then used to alter their orbits.
Ah i see where you designed the engines Sackhead, but you still need to actually build them.
Building and using goes into the same turn. I mean, it happened like that for a hundred others things too.

well how about i just take 40 metal to make all the nanites and stuff, not all the nanites, and I will simply just design the  the vehicles.
Uhm no. That's almost 1/3 of our production. Which is way to much for your own personal army, considering there's 10 people on this team. Though well, it's not for me to dictate other people's game, I'd say you get 15 ton of metal and whatever's left, at least.

Anyway, another idea






Also, people. Watch out with those massive quote posts.

Yes, adding said thing into said S.S. plans is quite possible. That should accelerate global warming a little bit.

Well, this is becoming more and more fun to observe and direct. So, to sum up all the fuss about the nanites for now, they are pretty much impossible to create with the current tech. In the near future, certainly possible. Just not now, you started research though.
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Re: Destroy the Planet!
« Reply #166 on: October 14, 2013, 01:48:13 pm »

Offer to sell all my excess energy to the SADISTS for three turns in exchange for 30 tons of metal.
Have my soldiers begin to manual mine down into the moon and gather whatever metals and minerals they can get.
Use any metal gained to begin building mining facilities.
Spare some metal to build point defense turrets around and into the moonbase.
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« Reply #167 on: October 14, 2013, 02:00:54 pm »

Pretty certain that the skyscraper was in New York.
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Send stealth-suit teams to board and steal the frigates, once their engines have been finished.
Have lazy weapons guys design an effective explosive that can be made using common household objects and chemicals. Distribute information of it's creation to resistance groups operating in S.S. countries.
Nuke the S.S. metal production facilities.
Construct moon-based mining facilities and space-ship dockyards tooled to produce the heavy shuttle.
Nuke in-construction S.S. spaceships as a last ditch countermeasure should other attempts on them fail.
« Last Edit: October 14, 2013, 02:03:25 pm by TopHat »
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Re: Destroy the Planet!
« Reply #168 on: October 14, 2013, 02:08:50 pm »

Not the result I was hoping for. Stupid Volcanism, always disappointing.

So well, the SS has build underground buildings. Our point should be to try and keep them on Earth, while it collapses further and we colonize at as fast as possible.

((On a side note, nukes exploding in vacuum don't do an EMP. They do radiate quite a lot of thermal energy though))

Construction
Laser Point defense Bases in Earth orbit
Orbital particle arcelerator (Lunar orbit)
Orbital Defense System (AI drones)
Secret base on Venus. The atmosphere should make it almost undetectable. (Also unlivable, but we'll find a way)

Research
A new bioweapon. Deadly as they all are, and with us being immune. With one key difference, all SADIST members will be carriers of the disease. This should make it much harder for enemy agents to steal our technology.

War
Use EMP weaponry to sabotage the enemy fleet. (They're using fusion engines, which use a magnetically field to propel fusion gas. Aside from technically incapable of operating within atmosphere, these engines are particularly susceptible to EMP weaponry, as they have exposed conductors leading right into their core).
Deploy High tech AI systems against the enemy. Not only hacking and infiltrating their networks, but anticipating attacks and projecting weapon trajectories for interception.
« Last Edit: October 14, 2013, 11:42:57 pm by 10ebbor10 »
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Re: Destroy the Planet!
« Reply #169 on: October 14, 2013, 02:24:12 pm »

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Use metal resources to repurpose large fleets of civilian vehicles as technicals, IFVs and troop transports. Arm them with laser weapons where possible.
Start underground media campaign to increase recruitment.
Stockpile weapons and munitions, producing them or acquiring them by any means necessary.
Construct hidden bases to store supplies and train recruits in urban and irregular warfare.

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Re: Destroy the Planet!
« Reply #170 on: October 14, 2013, 03:57:27 pm »

SADISTS

Research: Improve Solar Technology, Further research in cold fusion, Further the Wheat on Moon Growing research, Develop Missiles that are able to fly through space for extended periods of time. Research oil-eating bacteria, trying to increase their reproduction and locomotion abilities
Construction: Build massive Warhead factories on the moon, Build massive missile launching pads on moon, Build a massive research facility on moon
Covert Opt: Infiltrate Cern and steal research regarding fusion and steal equipment to facilitate further research. Kidnap high ranked scientists.
Attack: Attack the North and the South Pole with nuclear missiles.
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« Reply #171 on: October 14, 2013, 04:33:38 pm »

Improve our GM soldiers to more exclusive and harder to survive, yet more powerful, genetic modification. Send said GM soldiers on a test run by attacking London, with some some elites as back up
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« Reply #172 on: October 14, 2013, 04:38:40 pm »

continue development of the Forced Evolutionary Virus
Create EXALT That I tried to do last turn, with the soldiers.
have agents infiltrate the fractions and steal technology from them
try to finish the Infinite power form cells project
build orbital laser cannons.
cure super virus
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« Reply #173 on: October 14, 2013, 05:35:28 pm »

Sadists, Start Creating A way to connect and control nanobots using the human brain, sort of like A extra hand, and research into making them
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EDIT: Also, keep tabs on EVERY one of our scientists, put trackers on them and guards, if possible and accepted by them, explosive implants so that they will nto fall into enemy hands! if we cant have em, noone can.
DUBBLE NEO EDIT!?: Also, we should accept adwarfs  offer, we practically don't have any energy, and spend another 30 for solars, then 20-40 for nanites then the 100-120 for idea's.
« Last Edit: October 14, 2013, 05:46:39 pm by wer6 »
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« Reply #174 on: October 14, 2013, 07:28:12 pm »

Sadists

Aquire more nukes, dig holes under major cities and by coast, detonate nukes in holes. Repeat till finished

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« Reply #175 on: October 14, 2013, 11:38:52 pm »

Sadist
continue NEO impact plan
using experience from zero G cereals begin design of an   insects and nematodes borne virus to infect no zero g crops that makes them more vigorous super poisonus resistant to herbacides and soil polluting i.e stop non infected plants growing in soil if plants are removed.
the virus will deliver genetic coding that aswell as gives infected plants these traits also makes them pump out more viroids. this should be moderately easy due to monoculture. release the virus in major agricultural areas.     
« Last Edit: October 15, 2013, 12:50:20 am by sackhead »
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« Reply #176 on: October 15, 2013, 12:04:19 am »

Sadist
continue NEO impact plan
using experience from zero G cereals begin design of an airborne virus to infect no zero g crops that makes them more vigorous super poisonus resistant to herbacides and soil polluting i.e stop non infected plants growing in soil if plants are removed.
the virus will deliver genetic coding that aswell as gives infected plants these traits also makes them pump out more viroids. this should be moderately easy due to monoculture. release the virus in major agricultural areas.     


Uhhh... I don't think an airborne virus does very well against plants (but then again i'm not a virologist) i'm pretty sure cell walls and all that make plants very, very resistant to viruses in general. A virus also can't last very long without a host so using it to pollute the soil probably shouldn't work either. And I don't even know how a virus can make a plant grow faster, produce toxins, counter-act herbicides, and support the growth and spread of the virus itself without making photosynthesis about 5x more efficient (the plant requires more and more energy for each of these effects). You can't make a super virus that creates super-plants with no weaknesses and makes it so no plants can ever be grown there again. That sounds a bit power-gamey. Give it some realistic weaknesses, or alternatively, try a simple fungus if you really want to destroy food supplies. The potato famines did kill millions after-all.
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« Reply #177 on: October 15, 2013, 12:39:41 am »



Uhhh... I don't think an airborne virus does very well against plants (but then again i'm not a virologist) i'm pretty sure cell walls and all that make plants very, very resistant to viruses in general. A virus also can't last very long without a host so using it to pollute the soil probably shouldn't work either. And I don't even know how a virus can make a plant grow faster, produce toxins, counter-act herbicides, and support the growth and spread of the virus itself without making photosynthesis about 5x more efficient (the plant requires more and more energy for each of these effects). You can't make a super virus that creates super-plants with no weaknesses and makes it so no plants can ever be grown there again. That sounds a bit power-gamey. Give it some realistic weaknesses, or alternatively, try a simple fungus if you really want to destroy food supplies. The potato famines did kill millions after-all.

by more viralint i mean breads faster not grows better, as a virus is a vector for adding genetic code so adding features is fairly easy
we could just make the virus cary stuff like the "round up ready genes" in Monsanto crops.
a ot of domestic plants have genetic coding to make them less effective at producing offspring most notably the "terminator gene" and that could easily be countered.
on making cells produce viruses many viruses already do this here is a link
also viruses can be dangerous to plants a prime example being tmv
by pollute the soil i just meant leek toxins into the soil not leave viruses.

i think your right about the airborne part i will change the vector to insects and nematodes
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Re: Destroy the Planet!
« Reply #178 on: October 15, 2013, 06:14:05 am »

Trigger natural disasters using explosives. Build satellittes in spac with massive platinum and tungstyen rods to droop on earth.

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Re: Destroy the Planet!
« Reply #179 on: October 15, 2013, 08:25:19 am »

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continue NEO impact plan
using experience from zero G cereals begin design of an   insects and nematodes borne virus to infect no zero g crops that makes them more vigorous super poisonus resistant to herbacides and soil polluting i.e stop non infected plants growing in soil if plants are removed.
the virus will deliver genetic coding that aswell as gives infected plants these traits also makes them pump out more viroids. this should be moderately easy due to monoculture. release the virus in major agricultural areas.     

If I may add some concerns:
  - Firebombs, or just plain cutting the plants, will clear out infected crops quickly, as well as all insects. Anti herbi/insecticide is therefore quite pointless.
  - Permanent ground pollution is pretty hard to do. Most toxins decompose at higher temperatures, after all. Bacterial spores can pull it off, sometimes. (Anthrax)
  - Making a plant produce extra viroids is simply a matter ofi nserting it's DNA into the loop.

If I might suggest some more subtle changes:
  - Maybe to a fungoid disease (Spores are hard to destroy, travel by air, and can maybe kill humans)
Otherwise:
  - Rather than making the plant poisonous, make the plant modify it's protein structure to a version that's indegestible for humans. (Since the virus will not be perfectly succesfull in every plant, this will go unnoticed at first. The effect is a widespread food crisis)
  - Use dominant genes. (Normal plant genes: aa. Infected plant genes AA. Offspring: Aa (still infect))
  - Use generewriting prion enzymes or make Aa offspring sterile. (Ie, in a case of an Aa plant, the generewrites it to AA) This ensures that the disease remains in the genepool.

((Note: terminator genes have never been utilized in any GMO. Hybridization has been utilized, with a result that ))

Trigger natural disasters using explosives. Build satellittes in spac with massive platinum and tungstyen rods to droop on earth.
Platinum is bloody rare and expensive. Besides, your post is a bit generic, isn't it.
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