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Helgoland

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How to Russian Roulette
« on: October 10, 2013, 03:41:44 pm »

So I was watching SMBC Theater, and a question occured to me: If you were for some reason forced to play Russian Roulette, how should you aim the gun? Is there a way of shooting yourself in the head that's very likely to not kill you?

(Also Two Guns is a cool movie, but that's just a tangent)
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Re: How to Russian Roulette
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2013, 04:00:20 pm »

I don't think the point of the game is for someone to non-lethally be shot. Are you asking how to cheat at Russian Roulette?
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Re: How to Russian Roulette
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2013, 04:06:08 pm »

Generally speaking it HIGHLY depends on the rules.

Though I have seen people effectively cheat at Russian Roulette.
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Re: How to Russian Roulette
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2013, 04:23:32 pm »

I'd wager no, since even though there are a lot of ways to not die of the immediate wound (not that I really know the geometry required to figure it out very well), it's not like you'll be getting medical attention fast enough to stop you from bleeding to death.
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Re: How to Russian Roulette
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2013, 06:16:16 pm »

Also it is very likely that dying is better fate than be shot non-lethally to the head. (Of course depending on the resulting damage.)
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Re: How to Russian Roulette
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2013, 06:56:41 pm »

Generally speaking it HIGHLY depends on the rules.

Though I have seen people effectively cheat at Russian Roulette.
Do continue...
And yeah, the question is: Assuming medical attention was availible within a reasonable timeframe, could you shoot yourself nonlethally in the head, thusly cheating at Russian Roulette?
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Re: How to Russian Roulette
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2013, 07:02:46 pm »

I'm assuming that they checked the gun before pulling the trigger. Even then, it's a stupid game.

I'd say if you were put in a position where you were forced to play Russian Roulette, you shoot the guy trying to force you. Keep pulling the trigger and eventually the bullet will fire, since revolvers use a mechanical rotation rather than using the shot to rechamber a round.

But yeah. Never point a gun at something you don't want to destroy. Especially a revolver, since those tend to be higher calibers than most guns. There's pretty much no way you'd survive that, and even if you did you'd probably get brain damage. The only way out I see is glancing the bullet off your skull, but that's such a crapshot that it's not even worth considering.
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Re: How to Russian Roulette
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2013, 10:21:28 pm »

Your best bet would be a shallow angle along the surface of your braincase, because you need it to be somewhat convincing that you shot yourself in the right place. You also need to avoid your spinal column. If those, quite frankly unjustified, assumptions are correct, then your best bet is probably in the mouth, shallow vertical angle, extreme horizontal angle. Makes it difficult to inspect the wound, and if you go fast enough they may not be able to tell that you were aiming at a particular angle. It complicates treatment, but eh.

Alternatively, if you have enough prep time and resources, a complicated arrangement involving makeup, animal blood and brains, a blank in the chamber, and a way to rig it so it'll only and certainly fire in your hands, you may have a shot at some kind of subterfuge.
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Re: How to Russian Roulette
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2013, 10:34:41 pm »

Blanks can kill you just as easily as a bullet at point black range, just from the pressure alone.

Guns are never safe if they're loaded.
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Re: How to Russian Roulette
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2013, 11:53:41 pm »

Blanks can kill you just as easily as a bullet at point black range, just from the pressure alone.

Guns are never safe if they're loaded.
Heck, I've heard way too many stories of people dying from blanks. Unless the gun is completely empty, it's dangerous.

And even then, you can club people down with those things, they're heavy, man.
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Re: How to Russian Roulette
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2013, 11:57:06 pm »

Open your mouth without opening your lips and shoot yourself through the cheek.
This is assuming that anyone watching you either has horrible vision or is stupid.
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Re: How to Russian Roulette
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2013, 12:01:17 am »

Open your mouth without opening your lips and shoot yourself through the cheek.
This is assuming that anyone watching you either has horrible vision or is stupid.
Or has had 7 too many vodkas.
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Re: How to Russian Roulette
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2013, 12:02:19 am »

Open your mouth without opening your lips and shoot yourself through the cheek.
This is assuming that anyone watching you either has horrible vision or is stupid.
Alternatively, just shoot yourself through cheek. Missing teeth, and ripped up jaw, but you'd probably survive.
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Re: How to Russian Roulette
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2013, 01:51:22 am »

Blanks can kill you just as easily as a bullet at point black range, just from the pressure alone.

Guns are never safe if they're loaded.
Aye, but safer than a bullet. By a tiny, tiny margin. I cannot emphasize enough how terrible an idea trying this would be, though. I can categorically state that there's no way to lose at Russian Roulette that is both safe and convincing, and that's kind of the point. You're best off rigging the gun to shoot somebody else.
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“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

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Re: How to Russian Roulette
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2013, 03:58:22 am »

The last scene of Fight Club.

I'd talk about it, but, you know, the first rule...
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