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What are my chances of getting my character off as innocent?
« on: October 10, 2013, 01:01:38 pm »

Hes charged with flag murder, by accident, he has 22 persuasion and charisma, and 13 law and intelligence. Would those be enough to get him off as innocent in court if he defends himself in court?
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Re: What are my chances of getting my character off as innocent?
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2013, 01:46:36 pm »

Dunno how the code works, but your guy has better stats/skills than regular lawyers in the game.

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Re: What are my chances of getting my character off as innocent?
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2013, 01:58:26 pm »

With stats like those, sounds like a walk in the park.
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Re: What are my chances of getting my character off as innocent?
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2013, 04:36:56 pm »

With stats like those, sounds like a walk in the park.

^This

It gets a LOT harder based on the amount of crimes you have, like it might get near-impossible with huge amounts of murders (>250), but those stats can easily get you out of most crimes. 13 Law is the big one, that's really high, and I'm pretty sure the most important factor when defending yourself (persuasion comes next I think, pretty sure they're not equally important).
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Re: What are my chances of getting my character off as innocent?
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2013, 07:10:46 pm »

Last I knew Law and Persuasion are both pretty important.  That said, 2 Treasons is pretty much guaranteed jail time.  Same with 1 Treason and a Flag Murder, Theft, etc.
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Re: What are my chances of getting my character off as innocent?
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2013, 04:15:23 pm »

Those are very impressive stats for Charisma, Persuasion, Intelligence, and Law. You should do very well in court. But besides having a lawyer with really good stats (in this case, yourself), you also need a good judge and good jury to get the optimal outcome, if you're facing a huge amount of criminal charges. Having a Sleeper judge presiding over the case is a MUST. If I recall correctly, they prevent any witnesses from testifying against you and they grant leniency in sentencing if somehow you are found guilty. As for the jury being on your side, there are 2 variables for that, mainly. 1 is how Liberal or Conservative the people in the country are. The more Liberal the populace is, the more favorable the jury will be, while a Conservative populace will be quite harsh on you if they end up as the jury. Another factor is something that only the expensive $5,000 lawyer can do... he can tilt the jury in your favor. He has that ability. That doesn't happen if you defend yourself. This is basically a reward for players who spend the money on the expensive lawyer (spending that much money ought to help you out more than just a little, after all... and it does). That being said, the expensive lawyer isn't perfect. Your character probably has better stats as far as arguing in court is concerned (Charisma+Persuasion+Intelligence+Law), plus the expensive lawyer runs the risk of having his arch-nemesis super-prosecutor show up... which is very very bad. So spending the money on an expensive lawyer is actually a bit like gambling, it might not always work out in your favor, except, unlike gambling, it USUALLY does.
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Re: What are my chances of getting my character off as innocent?
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2013, 06:00:09 pm »

Those are very impressive stats for Charisma, Persuasion, Intelligence, and Law. You should do very well in court. But besides having a lawyer with really good stats (in this case, yourself), you also need a good judge and good jury to get the optimal outcome, if you're facing a huge amount of criminal charges. Having a Sleeper judge presiding over the case is a MUST. If I recall correctly, they prevent any witnesses from testifying against you and they grant leniency in sentencing if somehow you are found guilty. As for the jury being on your side, there are 2 variables for that, mainly. 1 is how Liberal or Conservative the people in the country are. The more Liberal the populace is, the more favorable the jury will be, while a Conservative populace will be quite harsh on you if they end up as the jury. Another factor is something that only the expensive $5,000 lawyer can do... he can tilt the jury in your favor. He has that ability. That doesn't happen if you defend yourself. This is basically a reward for players who spend the money on the expensive lawyer (spending that much money ought to help you out more than just a little, after all... and it does). That being said, the expensive lawyer isn't perfect. Your character probably has better stats as far as arguing in court is concerned (Charisma+Persuasion+Intelligence+Law), plus the expensive lawyer runs the risk of having his arch-nemesis super-prosecutor show up... which is very very bad. So spending the money on an expensive lawyer is actually a bit like gambling, it might not always work out in your favor, except, unlike gambling, it USUALLY does.
Isn't there a possibility of having one of your sleepers in the jury?
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Re: What are my chances of getting my character off as innocent?
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2013, 06:19:55 pm »

Isn't there a possibility of having one of your sleepers in the jury?

Nope.
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Re: What are my chances of getting my character off as innocent?
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2013, 09:01:27 pm »

Isn't there a possibility of having one of your sleepers in the jury?

I think what this is... is actually that your sleeper judge influences who the jury is and specifically has them be more liberal, not that it's an actual sleeper of any sort that gets into the jury. I always get the secret liberal handshake when I have a sleeper judge.
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