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[lordcooper]

Remove low ratings too.

[Cthulhu]

Remove lordcooper.

[Sonlirain]

I don't like how enemy attacks do damage to my guys.  Stress has got to go too.

Stress can stay. The stress afflictions should go tho. Heroes with high stress should always get virtues instead.

[lordcooper]

Remove lordcooper.

rude

[Simon]

The virtues/afflictions is a neat feature, though obviously in favor of afflictions. Which can seriously fuck up the stress levels of other party members, snowballing into a shitload of paranoid, cowardly, abusive mercenaries just standing there shouting expletives at each other while getting chopped into pieces by a pair of skeletons with swords and drinking problems.

Stress, in itself, is a great idea.

[Cthulhu]

My tier 2 team just fucked the collector up, big time.  Got two stuns in a row before he'd even acted, and by the time he had his heads up he was less than a third health and had three poison darts in him.

Killed him immediately after his second collect call, didn't eat a single headhunt.

[Spehss _]

Anyway, i LOVE the new quotes. I had a bounty hunter once say: "Its like that time in the weald.... except without all the spiders." I burst out laughing.

One mission I had in the weald, I found 3 beast corpses early on that I looted for 3 stacks of 12 food each. I already had brought 1 stack of 12 food for the sake of the medium length mission. 48 units of food in one mission. During camp my plague doctor commented "Who packed all this food? I could kiss you!"

Got a good chuckle out of me.

So, everyone, whos your favorite class? Mines bounty hunters. Decent dodge, great accuracy, they can knockback, stun, and bleed, and they have a greater damage output then a leper usually.

Abomination is probably my favorite. Good utility, good damage, pretty badass design in beast form, fun risk/reward aspect and requires some different party planning to get around the "no vestal or crusaders w/ abominations" restriction.

[Anvilfolk]

People talking about the bounty hunter reminded me that I really want to try a party that does extra damage to marked enemies. I usually shy away from those, because it requires wasting a turn to get the mark out... but dayum, that bounty hunter has a +90% damage to marked target! The houndmaster gets buffs, and the arbalest too?

I've also tried a couple of runs without healers. They are... so far, surprisingly successful. Though, to be fair, I'm trying mostly tier 1 stuff still

[umiman]

I've had some pretty amusing moments with this. I don't know if it's the second coming but it's quite fun. I liked how it was way back in early access and I like all the new stuff they added to make the game more compelling like heart attacks and corpses and stuff.

I managed to get through all the first round of bosses and 12 guys to level 3 without even losing a single person. Was like, "meh, did they make it easier?". I took another group of low levels out to grind them some more when I saw some kind of funny stick with an orb in it that asked me to put a torch in it. I went, "K" and put a torch in it.

Only my leper survived that encounter and I was sweating balls.

Another moment was when I was using another group of lowbies to fight the cannon boss. No big deal again all the way to the end. No damage, no stress, large pile of loot, no problems. Judging by the other bosses this one would also have some kind of cheap gimmick but otherwise a cakewalk. Saw the cannon. Was like "meh." KABOOOOOOM! Retreat out of battle.

Hellion: "Alright bros, status check. I'm at 2hp."
Grave Robber: "Same."
Jester: "I'm on death's door."
Arbalest: "I think my pancreas is in my eyeball."

So yeah, that was pretty fun.

The Prophet was pretty amusing too, in a "fuck you and all you stand for" kind of way.

That being said, my core team of the four guys you literally start with seem to be invincible. It's like it gets way more easy at high levels. I'm also kinda annoyed I'm forced to use all these low tier shitstains because my other guys are too high level for these bosses.

[Cthulhu]

The houndmaster really comes into his own at higher levels.  At first I wasn't too impressed, he feels awkward in the same way Jester feels awkward, like he wants to do too many things and can't really do any of them.

But level 5 guard dog adds 25 dodge.  My houndmaster with blue-tier armor and the +12 dodge trinket had base 37 dodge.  With two guard dog buffs that's effectively 87 dodge on half your team.  Nothing hits him.  He's the ultimate tank.

So I've been taking him second row, since the first two rows take most hits.  Guard the front row if it's needed, or whoever's marked, or whoever you think they'll attack.  Nothing will ever hit him.  Hound's Rush also gets really strong later on, and the prot debuff on his mark is great.

EDIT:  Just did the first darkest dungeon.

Spoiler: In case you want it spoiled (click to show/hide)

Imagine bullshit, basically.  An extremely long series of difficult fights on a map that technically branches but may as well be linear since nothing is revealed except the layout.  There are no curios that I saw, nothing at all except a year-long path through impossible fights ending with an impossible fight.

Bring lots of stress-heal camping skills.  At that point in the game damage isn't really an issue unless it starts piling up, which will happen when you get afflicted or your occultist rolls bad.  Stress will be a big issue, since basically every move in the entire DD arsenal does stress damage, and you'll face approximately infinity stress moves.

If it wasn't obvious, I'm very disappointed with what I saw.  Can't decide my thoughts on the visuals.  The red and metal was a nice variation on the paint-by-numbers cthulhu shit you usually see in games, but I was really disappointed when I got to the boss and it was just a shambler with cancer.

I lasted one round against the boss and lost three guys including the one from running away.  Lost six trinkets, a bunch of red gear, tens of thousands of gold in investment on those guys, because the devs are very inconsistent in their implementation of fun vs. challenge.  Most of the game's become reasonably challenging but the darkest dungeon is fucking bullshit, and not the fun kind.  Like I said, it's a slog.  You fight dudes, then you fight dudes, then you fight some dudes, then you camp before you get back to fighting dudes.  And there's choices but the choices don't matter cause there's only one place to go and you can't see what's on the different paths.  I'm starting to wonder if they didn't run out of steam.  I don't think I have the stomach for four missions of that shit, not to mention all the grinding it'll take to keep preparing new teams since you can't take people into it twice.

Oh well, XCOM 2 comes out in a couple days.  Really not sure if I'll keep playing DD.

[Spehss _]

People talking about the bounty hunter reminded me that I really want to try a party that does extra damage to marked enemies. I usually shy away from those, because it requires wasting a turn to get the mark out... but dayum, that bounty hunter has a +90% damage to marked target! The houndmaster gets buffs, and the arbalest too?

I've also tried a couple of runs without healers. They are... so far, surprisingly successful. Though, to be fair, I'm trying mostly tier 1 stuff still

A mark party works pretty well. I took an arbalest, houndmaster, and two bounty hunters on a lvl1 weald mission once. Houndmaster typically did the marking, bounty hunters hit things until they died, and arbalest either healed or shot things until they died. Typically houndmaster went first every turn, so he got to mark things and the other party members could attack the marked target in the same turn.

This party would likely work well in the warrens too, since lots of pig dudes are either beast, human, or both, and bounty hunters gain damage against human targets, while houndmaster gains damage on beast targets. I think the party lacks aoe a bit aside from houndmaster's aoe bleed attack, but makes up for it with lots of passive bonus damage against certain targets.

[LordPorkins]

It would be funny if when a character was nonsensical and babbling, if the other characters eventuallly got tired of his shit

Jester: "HEEEHEEEHEEEHEEEE-
Bounty Hunter: "SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH"
Jester: "Every rose has its thorn teeheeheehee!"
Bounty Hunter: "Thats it, im done!"

*Jester has been Critically hit by Bounty Hunter!*
*Bounty hunter has relieved 20 stress!*

[Zangi]

You forgot: "Party gains 20 stress!"

[LordPorkins]

Nope, the others have just given up on the jester by now.

[Kruniac]

I don't like how enemy attacks do damage to my guys.  Stress has got to go too.

So the thing with that is that stress and trauma are the entire points of the game. It's literally what is advertised about this game, and is the core mechanic/atmospheric aspect of the game.

You might have better luck playing another game. DD without stress is basically a crappy little mobile game or something, and that isn't fair to everyone else playing it who enjoys the stress/trauma mechanics.