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[ChairmanPoo]

I have to say that the narrator does act a delicious dramatic flair to the game. I think my favorite narrator battle comment yet is the one that pops up sometimes when your heroes go starwalt, and goes like "There are many who break in the face of chaos. But not this one, not today"

[Sindain]

Also apparently people have already beaten the available content at 42 hours. The mind boggles. Maybe if I'd stuck out some runs I'd be farther along but I struggle to see how it would have been possible. I think there's just a threshold you pass with this game where bad runs don't hurt you as much. Getting to that threshold is the hard part.

I beat the available content yesterday. Haven't bothered to grind all my people up to 6th level because that seems pointless, but I did beat all champion level bosses.
Really, once you get adjusted to veteran level missions its pretty easy after that. You'll get tons o gold and with max level weapons and abilities crit chances are really high so stress starts to become a non issue (as you'll be recovering ~20 stress a battle just through crits).

[Zangi]

I wonder if changes to the affliction system are too late...
Either way, I'm probably gonna throw a suggestion out along these lines:

Spoiler: Further defining affliction and heroics... (click to show/hide)

Each character should have a persistent affliction.  Like for example, if they are afflicted with Abusive, they should never 100% lose it like they do now.  At low-medium stress, it will be a lingering thing... but when their stress is high, this affliction will threaten to take hold again as the character expresses their stress... and when they finally max their stress again, they will relapse.  But, relapsing is also when the test of their resolve occurs. 

Mechanic wise, a character with no affliction cannot become heroic.  As they must first be afflicted... finding themselves lacking in the face of adversity.  True heroics is putting that affliction aside when it threatens to overcome them once again.

Each affliction could be further defined, perhaps a minor stat bonus/malus, the effects becoming more as the stress goes up and actions like refusing healing become more likely as stress builds...
Examples:
-Paranoid: Increased watchfulness and reaction, Dodge(and/or Speed/Scout), but less likely to accept 'help' as their stress grows.
-Hopeless: A loss in urgency, lower Speed and/or a higher chance of passing turns.  But, perhaps one who waits around for their doom, not caught up like the others in the current happenings will notice more things, increased Loot and/or Scout.
(I understand that this portion may be hard to balance if implemented...)


Heroics... Stalwart, Courage, Focused... it comes in many forms.
-Perhaps the Abusive character's gains inspiration, their berating now takes on an Inspirational tone, motivating their companions to do better, lest they face another furious tongue lashing. 
-Maybe the Hopeless character manages to steel their resolve, becoming Stalwart in the face of adversity.
-Another day, the same Abusive character resolve may take another form, becoming Focused, instead directing their abuse upon the enemy before them.

The goal here is to further define each character with a persistent affliction, separating who they are outside of the Virtues and Vices.  And to differentiate the Afflictions and the Heroics associated with those Afflictions. 

It is of some significance when a character's resolve bears fruit in a random way.  But, it is something more when a character pushes aside their shortcoming, to be a better person, at least for the time being.

[ChairmanPoo]

I'd like changes in the healing system myself. Something mimicking the one in the Shadowrun videogame would be nice, with healers being able to heal (at any time) up to a limit (in shadowrun they could only heal the last inflicted wound), and needing kits for the rest.


I suspect we'll get healing kits sometime into the development process&, and I hope we get some tackling of the issue as well. As it is it's a bit unsatisfying ,  the healing mechanic. Combat-only healing is a bit arbitrary. I'd rather have it work both in and out of combat but have some other sort of limit that was more interesting (eg: I believe someone suggested in this thread having occultist healing stress people?).

[Mephansteras]

Yeah, I don't like in-battle healing either. Although if you could get rid of bleed/blight effects out of combat they'd need to buff the items that do that. Maybe give them a stress reduction as well?

I think the best way to handle the issue is to let you heal out of combat but have wounds reduce both current hp and max hp for the adventure. That way you'd still be ground down by frequent/brutal combat, but it wouldn't feel as arbitrary. And you could have the camp healing effects restore max hp to make them useful again.

[Zangi]

A trade off in my opinion is that healing outside of combat will cause stress.  For the Occult's heal and the Leper's self heal, they stress everyone else.  For the others, they stress themselves.  The light fades too... as it takes time.

Of course, once stress is maxed, they can't heal anymore.  (Occult and Leper starts stressing themselves if everyone else is maxed.)  As for stress relieving skills if available, stresses the user too.

[Cthulhu]

Out-of-combat is gamey yeah but it would completely obviate the camping system we have.

[TwilightWalker]

Apparently we're not the only ones that like Darkest Dungeon. It's in the third spot for viewers on Twitch. Who would've thought?

[BishopX]

1.  It's random.  Periodically they'll get hungry.

2.  You can only camp in longer quests.  You'll automatically receive firewood when you can camp and you just right click it.

3.  Later on you'll unlock the guildhouse, where you can upgrade abilities; the blacksmith, where you can upgrade gear; and the survivalist, who upgrades camping skills.

Major point on the blacksmith. You can upgrade the arms and armor of a character the first time when they hot level ONE. Here's can have gear equal to their level +1. It's less than 1k for a fairly large boost in stats, and makes it makes a big difference.

[Elfeater]

The amrour I think is the best choice off the bat. It makes your guys a ton more survivable, and the camping healing is much much better.

[Majestic7]

Is there any reason to use the Jester? Haven't recruited one, had one to pop up available but the skills seemed pretty useless. So far I'm rolling with Vestal/Occultist, Plague Doctor for crowd control (yay for stun grenades), two tanks. When doctors are too insane I replace the slot with a Grave Robber, but she seems quite...average.

Speaking of bugs - I wonder if it is a feature or a bug that sometimes you get, say, a drunk and then have him turn absolutist, leaving no way to remove stress without a trip to the sanitarium.

It would be nice if winning bosses gave you unique rewards, such as unique items or unique heroes. These unique heroes could be of classes otherwise unavailable. Something like Martyr - regenerates constantly and heals others by taking their damage to himself, when someone dies he dies instead, Vampyr - fights the better the darker it is, stresses everyone else and sucks their blood while camping, Gunslinger - back row gunpowder-based damage dealer, Mad Scientist - experiments give unpredictable results and boost friends, but drive them insane. The gist of it the unique classes being all stronger than basic classes, but coming with a serious handicap inbuilt.



 

[SharpKris]

IMHO the game needs much less RNG

[rumpel]

Oh, I really like the game. Followed the game roughly since it appeared on Kickstarter... 20 currency is a bit much, but was an insta-buy though. :3

[Elfeater]

The game doesn't really have *that* much RNG. It is in a way like BloodBowl, risk management.

[DemonOfWrath]

After 6-7 hours play the only time I've really been annoyed at the RNG has been a fight where the enemies scored about 5 crits in about 2 rounds. The damage wasn't too bad, but it was near the start of a medium run and instantly wrecked the sanity of the whole party, which made the rest of said run rather annoying.