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[Leafsnail]

You could probably win (the majority of its attacks would just bounce off your armour), but there's no rush.  If you could get a demon whip or an eveningstar (and you can usually find one when you explore Vaults) that would make you a lot stronger.

Also I just got the Slimy Rune with my character, TRJ is pretty easy to kill if you have storm spells.

e: I also found an Amulet of Resist Mutation in the vaults, how fortunate.

[tompliss]

So I decided, anfter finishing the snake Pit, to visit that famous Lernaean hydra.
She hit me for 4 HP, and I hit her 4 times to kill her.
I feel like I wasted that Wand Of Hasting charge ... :/

Anyway, I got 2 runes (and cleaned Elven Hall) and am lvl19. It's my best run so far.

[Aelig]

Good to see the Blacksmiths are doing well, I have a similar character, except I might not be able to get the "easy" rune at Shoals because it's garded by Mennas and I'm a DsCK, so it's basically the ultimate counter to me...

[Delta Foxtrot]

Good to see the Blacksmiths are doing well, I have a similar character, except I might not be able to get the "easy" rune at Shoals because it's garded by Mennas and I'm a DsCK, so it's basically the ultimate counter to me...

With rCorrosion and rMut Slime isn't really that bad for a high lvl character. That said DK's minions might not fare as well.
Does anyone know how tough Abyss really is? It gets bunched up into "extended" but sometimes I come across people who say Abyss&Rune are quite doable for a +20lvl character. Is it?

[FluidDynamite]

Note to future self: Do not test unidentified wands on a nearly dead hydra hoping it would be a standard damaging wand.

It will be the wand of polymorph.

I now have a storm dragon guarding the entrance to lair.

[Leafsnail]

Got the abyssal rune.  Probably gonna go for Pan next.

[Graven]

Damn I've got a +14 randart platemail, 13 scrolls of enchant armour, a GDA in a shop for 3.5K gold and absolutely no elemental or magic resistance at all. Why must things always be hard :|

[Graven]

Oh wow, I just realised why things felt so much different from my last GrGl of Zin run. Last time I focused purely on heavy armour, melee and invocations, throwing spellcasting into the mix right at the start of extended.

This time I went for a hybrid build with spellcasting thrown in since mid-game, however the problem is while I have pretty great AC, my HP is really low, and I only have a single pip of rF and rC - and I can't really afford this on a melee gargoyle.

Usually this wouldn't be a problem, since I could just put on a GDA, but if I do that now, I lose all the experience I've put into Spellcasting and Charms - and it's not a neglectable amount. Not to mention my other skills are also lower than they'd be if I was entirely melee focused. I should probably just man up, train all the Charms I can to get at least the minor buffs castable in GDA and go clear Zot, but I'm not sure how V:5 would handle. When I'm using Zin V:5 is usually "go down, yell at heathens, things die", but my invocations are also lower [and it feels like Zin has taken some nerfs, since with 20 inv things are getting confused/salterized less often, but this might be bias].

Oh well, For The Emperor!

[Empty]

That was fun.
Both the The Lernaean hydra and Mara on swamp 5.
Used up all my blinking scrolls.

[Graven]

Ok, so here's the situation.

This is me :

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13.0-3-g966e3ec (webtiles) character file.

Gravenous the Gracecrafter (Gargoyle Gladiator)    Turns: 81364, Time: 06:23:03

HP 171/171       AC 60     Str 28      XL: 25   Next: 87%
MP  41/41        EV  8     Int 12      God: Zin [******]
Gold 5933        SH  0     Dex 10      Spells:  4 memorised, 19 levels left

Res.Fire  : + + .   See Invis. : +   V - +9,+8 great mace (crush)
Res.Cold  : + . .   Warding    : .   C - +14 plate armour "Zahat" {rF+}
Life Prot.: + . .   Conserve   : .   (no shield)
Res.Poison: +       Res.Corr.  : .   y - +1 helmet {SInv}
Res.Elec. : +       Clarity    : .   B - +2 cloak of Brilliance {rC+ Acc+3 SInv}
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   P - +1 pair of gloves
Res.Mut.  : .       Stasis     : .   (no boots)
Res.Rott. : +       Flight     : +   j - amulet "Grul" {+Rage rElec MR++}
Saprovore : . . .                    I - ring of protection from fire
                                     W - ring of wizardry

@: flying, extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: large and strong wings, fangs 1, talons 2, life protection 1, electricity
resistance, slow metabolism 1, unbreathing, petrification resistance, AC +19
a: Stop Flying, Recite, Vitalisation, Imprison, Sanctuary, Cure All Mutations,
Renounce Religion, Evoke Berserk Rage
}: 3/15 runes: decaying, silver, gossamer


You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Zin.
Zin is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 8 branches of the dungeon, and seen 58 of its levels.
You have visited 1 bazaar.
You have also visited: Sewer and Ice Cave.

You have collected 9416 gold pieces.
You have spent 3172 gold pieces at shops.
You have donated 331 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 H - the +10,+10 lance "Wyrmbane" (quivered) {slay drac, +Rage rPois rF+ AC+5}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   This legendary weapon is deadly to all dragonkind.
   
   It affects your AC (+5).
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from poison.
   It lets you go berserk.
 V - a +9,+8 great mace of crushing (weapon)
Armour
 y - a +1 helmet of see invisible (worn)
 B - the +2 cloak of Brilliance (worn) {rC+ Acc+3 SInv}
   (You found it on level 6 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your accuracy (+3).
   It protects you from cold.
   It enhances your eyesight.
 C - the +14 plate armour "Zahat" (worn) {rF+}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It protects you from fire.
 P - a +1 pair of gloves (worn)
Magical devices
 f - a wand of magic darts
 g - a wand of hasting (2)
 m - a wand of digging {zapped: 6}
 r - a wand of teleportation (6)
 Q - a wand of teleportation (4)
 S - a wand of invisibility (4)
 U - a wand of teleportation (3)
 Y - a wand of hasting
Comestibles
 b - a royal jelly
 x - 7 meat rations
 J - a bread ration
 L - 11 grapes
 M - 14 sultanas
Scrolls
 a - 6 scrolls of teleportation
 h - 2 scrolls of identify
 l - 4 scrolls of blinking
 p - 4 scrolls of fear
 s - a scroll of remove curse
 z - 2 scrolls of fog
 X - 3 scrolls of magic mapping
 Z - 2 scrolls of holy word
Jewellery
 j - the amulet "Grul" (around neck) {+Rage rElec MR++}
   (You found it on level 25 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [amulet of rage]
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 n - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
 q - a cursed ring of teleportation
 t - an uncursed ring of positive energy
 w - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion
 D - an uncursed amulet of warding
 I - a ring of protection from fire (right hand)
 T - a ring of sustain abilities
 W - a ring of wizardry (left hand)
Potions
 E - 5 potions of heal wounds
 O - 4 potions of curing


   Skills:
 - Level 21.0 Fighting
 - Level 18.0 Maces & Flails
 - Level 2.0 Throwing
 * Level 17.7 Armour
 - Level 2.4 Dodging
 - Level 4.1 Spellcasting
 - Level 23.0 Charms
 - Level 20.0 Invocations


You have 19 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Swiftness             Chrm/Air       ####......   1%          2    ##.....
b - Repel Missiles        Chrm/Air       ####......   1%          2    ##.....
c - Spectral Weapon       Hex/Chrm       ####....     1%          3    ###....
d - Haste                 Chrm           ######..     1%          6    #######


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (27/27)            Temple (1/1) D:6             Orc (4/4) D:10
    Elf (3/3) Orc:3          Lair (8/8) D:11          Swamp (5/5) Lair:4
 Spider (5/5) Lair:5        Slime (0/6) Lair:7       Vaults (5/5) D:17
  Blade (0/1) Vaults:3      Crypt (0/5) Vaults:2        Zot (0/5) D:27

Altars:
Ashenzari
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
the Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:11 *   D:15 [   D:16 ?+(*   D:21 !   D:25 %/((   Orc:3 *   Orc:4 ?*(?
Elf:1 [   Vaults:2 =

Portals:
Hell: D:21 D:22 D:23 D:24 D:25 D:26 D:27
Abyss: D:22 D:25 D:26
Pandemonium: D:22 D:24
Trove: D:24 (give 2 potions of cure mutation)

Annotations:
D:18 exclusion: downstairs
D:19 Mara
D:20 exclusion: upstairs
Lair:6 4 exclusions


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are resistant to torment.
You are immune to poison.
You can fly continuously.
Your stone body is very resilient (AC +19).
Your wings are large and strong.
You have very sharp teeth.
You have razor-sharp toenails.
You resist negative energy.
You are resistant to electric shocks.
You have a slow metabolism.
You can survive without breathing.
You are immune to petrification.
I've cleared basically everything except Zot, Slime, The Crypt and extended. I have two paths I could take :

- Put on two rings of elemental resistance, and roll with rF++ rC++, 60 AC, take the manual of dodging I have stashed in V:5 and go for armour/evasion combo.

- Slap on a GDA, and go for pure armour/spellcasting/invocations run. This will let me go rF++, rC++ and ring of Wizardry, and I'll have like 2 AC more. However, this will also let me always have three pips in the necessary resistance for each hell, whereas I won't be able to with option 1. I won't have any dodging, though - however dodging is a -2 apt for Gargoyles anyway, after my manual runs out.

I'm more tempted to go with option 2, because it's more familiar to me - I already 15-runed a dude like this, and because I really value resistances on Gargoyles. On the other hand I don't have a lot of experience with dodging in extended and I'm not sure how it compares to an extra pip of resistances.

I still have Crypt and Slime to do, so that may get me some nice resistance rings, but I'm saving Crypt for a brief flirt with TSO to get a Holy Great Mace. I could jump into slime at anytime, though.

[tompliss]

During Zot & Extended (hell and pandemiun ?), will you face more unavoidable spells or more dangerous dodgeable missiles ?
If you put your GDA now, what are your failure rates on important spells ?

Anyway, Gargoyles = -20%HP, and effectively -33% from usual pure armor/AC characters (who have +20%), so ...
I mean, I love resistances on them and dudging is too much "if you're unlucky, you won't dodge anything".

[Leafsnail]

I decided to escape with the orb and 6 runes - I was getting sortof tired of my character.  Also I've realized I prefer Sif to Vehumet for the extended endgame.

[TripJack]

nice one 

[Delta Foxtrot]

Congratulations on the win. Were there any close calls?

[Moron]

IMO the biggest danger in Slime is getting paralyzed by giant eyeballs. Sure, you could wear stasis, but that prevents haste/berserk and blink/telport and opens you up to a whole load of other threats that would otherwise be easy to deal with.