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[Aelig]

Well, looks like CLAN crashed.

I'm still playing my very first character with caution (spriggans can be killed by pretty much everything), I'm running into some issue though as I cleaned Lair and dungeon up to D:17, but my 2 "easy" branches are Shoals and Snake Pit which scare the hell out of me with a spriggan caster. I'm Pretty close to have access to Lich form though (30% cast fail atm) so I was thinking I could try the Elven halls once this happen as I'll have immunity to these damn bolts of draining, rC++ and rF++. MR wont be an issue either as I'm a spriggan, I'm just really scared of smiting with my ~50 hp.

I always seem to hit that kind of issue with spellcasters, any suggestions?

[Leafsnail]

Don't do Elf.

Do Snake instead, Snake is easy.  Also I think the only real threat on shoals comes from shoals 5, in the form of enemies slinging javelins at you.

[Moron]

IMO getting Necromutation for anywhere other than hell/pan/tomb is a waste of XP that could be better spent learning something that's actually useful for killing things or escaping. Even if you absolutely don't have any spell books with offensive/escape spells in, you're still probably better off training fighting, dodging, stealth or even a weapon skill to make use of Kiku's pain brand.

[Aelig]

Yeah I tried snake and it went well (ignite poison is op) until I reached a level with Mara and some super strong naga, so I backed and tried Shoals but as I don't have flight (Never found a book with it) I spent 30 turns there and went "Nope nope nope".

Also Necromutation is not the goal, the goal is haunt + necro, I think I have a shot to end the game with safe casts of haunt. Also Spriggans have -3 in conjuration and -2 in fire/ice so it's really painfull to go for offensive spells.

[Tegga21]

Have a good game going

Which should I use +11 Plate armor with RN or a +2 Crystal Plate armor

[Tegga21]

Did they nerf piety? I havn't used any Owakaru skills and avoiding auto-explore but I have yet to see 6***** piety

[Leafsnail]

Which should I use +11 Plate armor with RN or a +2 Crystal Plate armor

Check which one gives you more AC/EV.  The Crystal Plate would be superior at higher armour levels, especially once enchanted, but the plate armour is probably better for you now.

[Antur]

Did they nerf piety? I havn't used any Owakaru skills and avoiding auto-explore but I have yet to see 6***** piety

Yeah it seems it's much harder to get max piety with "passive" gods. (Oka,Vehumet etc)

Does ring of slaying damage bonus stacks with randart armor bonus ?

[Moron]

AFAIK, Okawaru piety gain was nerfed in 0.12 - instead of appreciating all kills and corpse sacrifices, he now only appreciates tough opponents so killing lots of weak monsters gains nothing.

Even before that, I found it harder to get max piety with Oka; because of the way gifts work, once you start getting gifts it becomes harder to gain piety (since a gift comes instead of piety gain.

I've found that the only way to get piety consistently is not to rest after battles and avoid branches with lots of weak monsters like Orc.

[tompliss]

Anyway, a Lair+Orc run with Oka should give you max piety "easily".
I had max piety when I checked, after O:2 (and lair done), and don't even know when I got it ^^

Anyway, Oka is done, and I think Vehumet might be fun with a Gargoyle glad/fighter. Just "need" to find a ring or two (ice or fire, wizardry,... Had a run with 2 wizardry, a Ice, a Fire, but ran into a giant Spiked Club ... ).

[Xgamer4]

D4.

Level 4 Hill Orc Monk. Menkaure is chasing me down the halls, and I expect to die.

By sheer luck, I run into a handful of Orcs, Orc Wizards, and (saving's grace) an Orc Priest. Convert to Beogh (which was my intent in the first place), run past the now-friendly Orc band, let them wound Menkaure, then finish up Menkaure by draining the Monk's starting piety to Smite Menkaure.

That was intense.

[UristMcDwarf]

D4.

Level 4 Hill Orc Monk. Menkaure is chasing me down the halls, and I expect to die.

By sheer luck, I run into a handful of Orcs, Orc Wizards, and (saving's grace) an Orc Priest. Convert to Beogh (which was my intent in the first place), run past the now-friendly Orc band, let them wound Menkaure, then finish up Menkaure by draining the Monk's starting piety to Smite Menkaure.

That was intense.

Hill orc monk?
You HOMo. 

[Delta Foxtrot]

@Covenant:
Sorry, I'm not really knowledgable about the ins and outs of Crawl numbercrunching. Everything I've read about everywhere do state that for a hybrid caster (which you seem to be heading towards) are best served by low EV penalty dragon armours, ie pretty much anything below fire.
Gut feeling says I would go with armour skill if using FDA and Dodging if anything lighter than that. Mind you, I've only ever won a berserker and what little magic experience I have past lair is usually Lugonu/Invocations so yeah...
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Eep!

Used ?Acquirement to acquire a weapon on D9. Now I'm holding a +6,+4 Bardiche (distort). It's a lot slower than my trident but it's not like I can unequip that thing. Though if I can get my attack speed up without dying in the process this'll be a pretty good weapon I reckon. I should probably just start enchanting this thing before I see if Lair makes or breaks this TeGl.

[Leafsnail]

Sorry, I did mean to answer them.

I have two main concerns. Firstly, what to spend my next XP on. Obviously, with all this intelligence, it's worth picking up some more magic. I can't decide which schools to train up though; it feels as though I have a lot of 'pretty good' options, but not one that's leaping out at me as optimal. I don't have as much experience with casters as fighter-types, so perhaps I'm missing some vital considerations.

It mostly depends on what spells you have available.  The low level ones you should not hesitate to get if you can:
- Repel missiles
- Blink
- Apportation
- Summon Butterflies
- Swiftness
- Flight (maybe?  It's not really essential but I sortof like it)

The kinda high level one that you should definitely get as soon as you can because it makes your character 50% better:
- Haste (I'd probably buy the cheapest haste book you can to start with)

Some cool higher level spells that may be worth shooting for at some point:
- Death's Door
- Borgnor's
- Controlled Blink

So probably get haste as soon as possible then either the necromancy or translocation ones.

The second is, what with the constant reworks of the Armor and EV system (now instead of EV penalty there's an encumbrance rating, apparently), I have no idea beyond the broad strokes of how the tradeoffs actually work. I'm aiming for a hybrid style of play, but I don't know how to calculate the numbers. I recently switched from the Steam to the Fire Dragon armour, but I'm unsure if I have enough armour skill (or dodging skill?) for that to be the right call. I've tried scouring the wiki, but half the pages seem to refer to out of date versions, and I had enough trouble understanding the maths of it before they changed everything.

I don't think anything's actually changed.  FDA is pretty good as long as it's not preventing you from casting spells.  If you want more spell success (which you might if you're going for haste, change to MDA.

[Xgamer4]

D4.

Level 4 Hill Orc Monk. Menkaure is chasing me down the halls, and I expect to die.

By sheer luck, I run into a handful of Orcs, Orc Wizards, and (saving's grace) an Orc Priest. Convert to Beogh (which was my intent in the first place), run past the now-friendly Orc band, let them wound Menkaure, then finish up Menkaure by draining the Monk's starting piety to Smite Menkaure.

That was intense.

Hill orc monk?
You HOMo. 

I would love to say "haha, joke's on you, I made it really far. ".

...but the truth is I got blasted by a stupid Orc Wizard one level lower...