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Re: Dota 2 - Brace yourselves Winter Wyvern is coming! Also some patches and stuff
« Reply #1185 on: February 13, 2015, 06:26:24 pm »

My one yearbeast game went ok, we lost due to no carry though.
Enemy team flamed us the whole time about pay2win. even on the end screen.
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Re: Dota 2 - Brace yourselves Winter Wyvern is coming! Also some patches and stuff
« Reply #1186 on: February 13, 2015, 06:33:43 pm »

This event is very p2w.  I don't really care, but it is.
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Re: Dota 2 - Brace yourselves Winter Wyvern is coming! Also some patches and stuff
« Reply #1187 on: February 13, 2015, 06:37:14 pm »

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Fixed a server crash related to the Year Beast Brawl. For the next Brawl, starting in an hour, we will temporarily replace the Daily Bonus with a significantly larger Ability Point bonus for everyone.

and to respond to p2w. yeah, kinda is. I'd be mad too, but it's for untradable sets. i mean really, just don't play for 10 minutes then?
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Re: Dota 2 - Brace yourselves Winter Wyvern is coming! Also some patches and stuff
« Reply #1188 on: February 13, 2015, 07:28:36 pm »

Amusingly, after the Low Priority change making everyone play All Random, Nature's Prophet (Who is no longer picked to AFK cliff jungle) has seen a significant winrate increase.
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Re: Dota 2 - Brace yourselves Winter Wyvern is coming! Also some patches and stuff
« Reply #1189 on: February 13, 2015, 07:35:05 pm »

I can't be bothered with the event. It's pure P2W.

Also, according to insiders, the custom games will be made pay 2 play as well. What the fuck Valve.

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Re: Dota 2 - Brace yourselves Winter Wyvern is coming! Also some patches and stuff
« Reply #1190 on: February 13, 2015, 07:47:00 pm »

Servers are dead, no event anyway.
as for custom games, well.. if the makers get money, good.. But that'll kill any playerbase fast, a lot like what i heard happened to starcraft arcade..
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Re: Dota 2 - Brace yourselves Winter Wyvern is coming! Also some patches and stuff
« Reply #1191 on: February 13, 2015, 09:41:13 pm »

... hopefully the incoming outpouring of contrary vitriol will change their mind, assuming the whole thing isn't someone's idea of a joke?

Making the custom maps P2P would straight kill the last glimmer of interest I had in ever reinstalling DotA >_>

You have any links or something to who's saying that, Umi?
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Re: Dota 2 - Brace yourselves Winter Wyvern is coming! Also some patches and stuff
« Reply #1192 on: February 13, 2015, 09:50:01 pm »

Quote from: umiman link=topic=131841.msg6033770#msg6033770
Also, according to insiders

AKA no source, pulled out of ass

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Re: Dota 2 - Brace yourselves Winter Wyvern is coming! Also some patches and stuff
« Reply #1193 on: February 13, 2015, 11:12:33 pm »

https://twitter.com/BelvedereDota/status/565622213815332866

I played a Year Beast game because it came on. Won and got a set for Drow. Yay~ Also the mode sucks and it counts towards your win / loss. Pretty sure the only reason we won is because we had two people who bought the arcana on our team so our year beast was like 5x stronger than theirs.

Here's how it works:

When the event comes up, you basically queue for an all pick match. You pick like normal and the game proceeds like normal until 5 minutes in. The only difference is you choose a level up path for your year beast (I think it's attack, defense and speed. Don't remember).

At 5 minutes, the year beast spawns and goes to a random lane. You can then choose to upgrade your year beast with the P2W money. You can upgrade the beast to level 2 in your path or use an ability like thundergod's wrath or global silence. Or give it an aegis or teleport it, etc. All of this costs money, the most expensive being levelling up the beast. It's 5000 P2W money for level 2 and 10000 P2W for level 3. At level 3 it basically becomes broken with shit like hero resurrect and a 50% chance to refresh any of your skills. The ults are 1000 P2W money and teleport is 50 P2W money.

The objective is to basically kill the ancient like normal.

Your skills and everything all work on the beast. So things like repel, troll ult, etc. all work. You can't control your beast except by using P2W money. 50 P2W money will make it attack a specific target for example.

The beast is strong but can be killed by 5 people ganging up on it. Just basically imagine Roshan except with way more attack speed and damage. At level 3 you might as well give up trying to kill it unless you're really farmed.

Essentially, if you want the most powerful beast for the mode you need about 15000 P2W money for level 3 and a few thousand for other abilities.

Edit edit: My mates and I are going to join a local lan tourney now haha. Free $200!

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Re: Dota 2 - Brace yourselves Winter Wyvern is coming! Also some patches and stuff
« Reply #1194 on: February 14, 2015, 04:19:47 am »

year beast in 28~ minutes
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Re: Dota 2 - Brace yourselves Winter Wyvern is coming! Also some patches and stuff
« Reply #1195 on: February 14, 2015, 04:25:11 am »

zues + necrophos = dead year beast unless the enemy team has omniknight.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2015, 04:27:11 am by etgfrog »
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Re: Dota 2 - Brace yourselves Winter Wyvern is coming! Also some patches and stuff
« Reply #1196 on: February 14, 2015, 03:03:23 pm »

gah, p2w stuff

anyways, if we have enough people, we should hold like a tournament or something.

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« Reply #1197 on: February 14, 2015, 05:08:31 pm »

wait...so they removed the item drops from leveling?
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Re: Dota 2 - Brace yourselves Winter Wyvern is coming! Also some patches and stuff
« Reply #1198 on: February 14, 2015, 07:42:47 pm »

... hopefully the incoming outpouring of contrary vitriol will change their mind, assuming the whole thing isn't someone's idea of a joke?

Making the custom maps P2P would straight kill the last glimmer of interest I had in ever reinstalling DotA >_>

You have any links or something to who's saying that, Umi?
I would be willing to pay a one time fee to access all the custom maps, and I'm sure quite a few other people would too.
Now, if you had to pay for every game you play, yeah that wouldn't work at all.
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Re: Dota 2 - Brace yourselves Winter Wyvern is coming! Also some patches and stuff
« Reply #1199 on: February 14, 2015, 08:12:52 pm »

... I'm sure some people would, yes. A ridiculously small fraction compared to those who wouldn't. And to a significant extent, the vitality of a custom content creation system relies on the number of people getting exposed to it. Cripple the playerbase by putting it behind a paywall in an otherwise F2P game, and you're going to do a hellish blow to the scene's output and quality.

I'd be really happy with some kind of voluntary donation system built in (possibly even incentivized! Ads in the lobby for non-payers or something? I'd be okay with that.), but a paywall is going to be a shot to the gut for the nascent user content community, even with all the people and ideas it's inheriting from the Warcraft and Starcraft ones.
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