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Re: Dota 2 - Oracle is here! Also more events and hats for PA
« Reply #1110 on: December 06, 2014, 11:58:03 pm »

Her int was nerfed because she was a ridiculous ganking hero, not necessarily a ridiculous jungling hero. If you bring one clarity, she can actually jungle faster than ever because of the damage bump on frostbite in the last update. Roaming is pretty good with CM, but you need a buddy. One of my favorite strats when I'm with my usual stack is roaming with WK+CM or CM+Sven.
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« Reply #1111 on: December 16, 2014, 12:24:12 am »

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« Reply #1112 on: December 16, 2014, 12:33:51 am »

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No longer requires turning to perform any actions

Holy shit.

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« Reply #1113 on: December 16, 2014, 01:15:49 am »

Her int was nerfed because she was a ridiculous ganking hero, not necessarily a ridiculous jungling hero. If you bring one clarity, she can actually jungle faster than ever because of the damage bump on frostbite in the last update. Roaming is pretty good with CM, but you need a buddy. One of my favorite strats when I'm with my usual stack is roaming with WK+CM or CM+Sven.

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Crystal Nova attack speed slow from 20 to 30
Frostbite cooldown from 10 to 10/9/8/7
Freezing Field duration increased from 7 to 10 seconds
Freezing Field explosion spawn radius and slow radius increased by 150
Freezing Field explosion damage radius increased by 50

Whelp. Now she's even more powerful.
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« Reply #1114 on: December 16, 2014, 07:43:54 am »

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Maximum Attack Speed increased from 500 to 600 (the primary impact of this is on abilities like Windranger

Glad to see even minor changes like this indicating they're removing themselves further from the limitations of the Warcraft 3 engine... though those abilities just got way more powerful (see: annoying) in Ability Draft mode.

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Force Staff can now be used on Homing Missile
This sounds hilarious and deserves further research.

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Lifestealer
Infest now allows you to control the unit you are in using a sub-ability
Can't be used on heroes now, so no more surprise ganks or easy escapes, but this opens up a few interesting possibilities for ganging in the enemy jungle.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2014, 07:57:13 am by Astral »
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« Reply #1115 on: December 16, 2014, 08:11:45 am »

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Infest now allows you to control the unit you are in using a sub-ability
Can't be used on heroes now, so no more surprise ganks or easy escapes, but this opens up a few interesting possibilities for ganging in the enemy jungle.
Control can't be used on heroes, infest can. or am i missing something?
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« Reply #1116 on: December 16, 2014, 08:22:16 am »

Battle hunger is a less silly skill now.   IMO, denying heroes affected by DoT's needs a standardization pass;  I think every DoT should allow denying.

Lifestealer changer is interesting, but bad.  Yea, that's stupid.  Control cannot be used on heroes; it doesn't say infest can't be.

Mana drain buff is big, I think.

Pudge hook has 1000 range at rank 1.

Pugna is much better.

QoP is now carry.

Slar changes are nice.

Not quite sure what shrapnel changes are doing for sniper.  I guess it lets him slow an entire lane or path, but I don't think that helps him much.

Fatal bonds buff is big.

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Diffusal Blade is no longer a Unique Attack Modifier
Multiple Manabreak type abilities do not stack


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Cost reduced from 1600 to 1400
Your movement is now only interrupted when the invisibility starts rather than when you cast it
« Last Edit: December 16, 2014, 08:25:40 am by Rez »
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« Reply #1117 on: December 16, 2014, 08:24:05 am »

Must have misread, or read into the Control sub ability stating it couldn't be used on heroes.

The diffusal blade change is delicious.
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« Reply #1118 on: December 16, 2014, 08:31:34 am »

Shadow amulet cheapness, plus troll fix, plus attackspeed change = buffed troll how my brother plays him (rush phase boots then shadowblade) so can't wait to see him dominate more when i paly with him.
I don't like the Eul's price hike. i love my core on everyone Eul's..
That pudge hook though, i betcha it'll let him gank lanes much earlier now with coordination. No more me waiting for level 3 hooks

The new map, i Love the holiday maps, i wonder how it'll interact with weather though..
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« Reply #1119 on: December 16, 2014, 08:40:07 am »

I think diffusal will be imbalanced.

Consider PL with diffusal and... skadi.  Spectre can run satanic with diffusal.  Diffusal becomes a general purpose upgrade for agi heroes, especially ones with manta.  I think mirana will be a hero that we see clean up with this, given that late-game mirana's often run manta and deso... and now diffusal, which incidentally synergizes with starfall and arrow.

ed: diffusal has been a niche item, but it was a niche item with significant utility and damage.  Now it's something you can replace a yasha with if you don't need the MS.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2014, 08:46:37 am by Rez »
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« Reply #1120 on: December 16, 2014, 12:38:45 pm »

Drow with Diffusal... thought you had a hard time running away previously? Where'd your mana go too?

Hell, a semi carry Silencer would love to have that in his repertoire,  as it would stack with Curse and give him utility via a debuff remover or slow.

The possibilities are interesting, to say the least. The main issue with Diffusal is that very few people used it as is, unless you built your character around not having a more beneficial orb effect like Lifesteal or Skadi,  and having to cover that weakness in some other way.
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« Reply #1122 on: December 16, 2014, 03:07:20 pm »

I can now legitimately buy diffusal blade on Venomancer. Nobody will ever escape me.
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« Reply #1123 on: December 16, 2014, 06:56:24 pm »

So this happened to me last night.

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2pgdet/fucking_spiders/

That poor Enigma even used his ult in vain... I feel like their team needed more AoE.
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« Reply #1124 on: December 16, 2014, 08:22:41 pm »

Is there a reason you decided to make that a 50MB gif instead of using a a video player like any sane person?
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