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Re: Dota 2 - Patch 6.82 hot off the press! Metagame shift when?
« Reply #975 on: October 01, 2014, 08:46:12 am »

Well, at least its better then all the people picking up hard carries and then doing literally nothing with them. For some perspective, this was my last game yesterday. I played venomancer.

Anyway, its surprising how venomancer never seems very popular in pubs, even though he's a really scary hero in the early game. Just put veno with a carry, put his Q on someone and rack up kills if they dont already have some escape method.
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Re: Dota 2 - Patch 6.82 hot off the press! Metagame shift when?
« Reply #976 on: October 01, 2014, 06:39:30 pm »

Jugg + Veno won me many, many games.
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Re: Dota 2 - Patch 6.82 hot off the press! Metagame shift when?
« Reply #977 on: October 02, 2014, 07:35:15 pm »

Jugg + Veno won me many, many games.
Jugg + any lane partner with a slow or stun can win many, many lanes.
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Re: Dota 2 - Patch 6.82 hot off the press! Metagame shift when?
« Reply #978 on: October 07, 2014, 04:57:16 pm »

Decided to try terrorblade in a bot game, see what they mean by "fastest farmer in the game"; I got 600 GPM just from farming jungle and using illusions to push the lane, only going for kills where the enemy happened to be right next to me. I can see where they get that. I'm pretty shit, too, so I can only imagine what kind of ungodly gpm someone like BurNIng can get.

Speaking of which, I decided to look at BurNIng's records on Dotabuff. Stomped by himself...

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Re: Dota 2 - Patch 6.82 hot off the press! Metagame shift when?
« Reply #979 on: October 07, 2014, 05:29:12 pm »

That sense of creeping horror when you realize your fat carry doesn't know how to carry.  Lvl 22, most gold in the game, still can't initiate to protect ancient.

I went 18/5 as Timber today and our Legion Commander still couldn't carry with the huge amount of space I created.

I started a game off as a 6 / 0 by 10 minutes Shadow Demon once, killed the enemy Sniper at least 3 times in lane. Top lane and Mid lane didn't feed either. I still have no idea how we lost.
Now you can only look at the draft and think "we picked one more support than them. Oh crap."

Perhaps it's my MMR bracket (~2900), but this seems to be the general theme of all my games past 45 minutes. If I go support, it rarely matters how much space I create. The game carries on till past 45 minutes and I'm useless.
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Re: Dota 2 - Patch 6.82 hot off the press! Metagame shift when?
« Reply #980 on: October 07, 2014, 08:20:24 pm »

Decided to try terrorblade in a bot game, see what they mean by "fastest farmer in the game"; I got 600 GPM just from farming jungle and using illusions to push the lane, only going for kills where the enemy happened to be right next to me. I can see where they get that. I'm pretty shit, too, so I can only imagine what kind of ungodly gpm someone like BurNIng can get.

Speaking of which, I decided to look at BurNIng's records on Dotabuff. Stomped by himself...
I don't know about "fastest farmer in the game"...

If you're freefarming bot games, you should try to aim for 1000gpm.

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Re: Dota 2 - Patch 6.82 hot off the press! Metagame shift when?
« Reply #981 on: October 07, 2014, 08:40:22 pm »

I did mention that I was shit, heh. Fastest I ever got in a real game was slightly more than that Terrorblade game as Faceless Void, primarily because I kept getting kills.

also, from what I've heard it's a consensus among People Who Know Their Shit that Terrorblade is the fastest, I guess because his illusions are frigging awesome.

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Re: Dota 2 - Patch 6.82 hot off the press! Metagame shift when?
« Reply #982 on: October 07, 2014, 08:40:42 pm »

He's pretty fast, but Antimage, Tiny, Naga, Nature's Prophet, and Satan are all pretty dang fast too. His illusions are really good for pushing towers, and decent for farming, but they don't clear stacks well.

Tinker can be fast as well but his accursed presence has been nerfed into the dirt this patch. (And he can stay buried.)
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Re: Dota 2 - Patch 6.82 hot off the press! Metagame shift when?
« Reply #983 on: October 07, 2014, 09:22:06 pm »

The big thing is that Terrorblade can farm freely with his illusions whereas many of the other guys put themselves in danger when they farm. Additionally, because of the way the hero works, literally all he does is farm (aka push lanes). He's like Lycan and Lone Druid in that sense. That's why to the unexperienced it might seem that he farms like a god... when really he just never leaves gold. For example, if you let Alchemist just bugger off by himself for the same amount of time, he'd have shittonnes more gold than Terrorblade could dream of.

Naga Siren, Maapo, and the old PL for example could easily outperform Terrorblade when it came to farming three lanes and jungle at the same time. Now it's just Naga and Maapo that can do that, and Maapo has to risk dying.

So while I wouldn't call him "the fastest farmer", he's probably the safest farmer.

Well... other than Nature's Profit.

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Re: Dota 2 - Patch 6.82 hot off the press! Metagame shift when?
« Reply #984 on: October 07, 2014, 11:01:10 pm »

Naga's pretty safe with Radiance. You can farm the whole dire side without leaving the radiant if you're quick with the illusion orders. On the other hand, maybe you get distracted enough doing that that the other team comes to kill you directly.

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Re: Dota 2 - Patch 6.82 hot off the press! Metagame shift when?
« Reply #985 on: October 08, 2014, 02:28:33 am »

There is the option to use a BKB and stun her, but you better be quick!
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Re: Dota 2 - Patch 6.82 hot off the press! Metagame shift when?
« Reply #986 on: October 08, 2014, 03:04:04 am »

There is that, but you can't activate BKB if you're already asleep. Gotta be sneaky to catch the Siren.
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Re: Dota 2 - Patch 6.82 hot off the press! Metagame shift when?
« Reply #987 on: October 08, 2014, 08:02:07 am »

Meepo is easily the fastest farmer in the game since he can do both things that really fast farmers need to be able to do, IE flash farm and farm more then 1 lane + jungle at the same time. Of course, he's also a really risky hero so there aren't a lot of people who can do it. By far the only things I can do with meepo are farming 2 lanes or 1 lane + jungle at the same time and do his poof combo and multi nets, and I'm still not a good meepo player at all.
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Re: Dota 2 - Patch 6.82 hot off the press! Metagame shift when?
« Reply #988 on: October 11, 2014, 05:36:49 pm »

Just got 797 gpm and over 900 xpm as drow in a hard bot game

...jesus these bots suck against drow

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Re: Dota 2 - Patch 6.82 hot off the press! Metagame shift when?
« Reply #989 on: October 11, 2014, 07:13:56 pm »

Just got 797 gpm and over 900 xpm as drow in a hard bot game

...jesus these bots suck against drow
that brings back memories. Drow was the first hero I ever played in a bot game. Or was it venomancer? either way I recently fed my first rapier as Drow recently. It was during a five stack game, and we had already had megas by that point so we won anyways, but it was a bit sad to not finish the game with my fancy sword.

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