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Alkhemia

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Re: Dota 2 - NEW PATCH 6.79 - Supersonic speed edition!
« Reply #106 on: October 27, 2013, 01:07:04 am »

So how does Bloodstone suicide work with SK Reincarnation?  ???
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« Reply #107 on: October 27, 2013, 10:16:48 am »

So how does Bloodstone suicide work with SK Reincarnation?  ???

He kills himself and respawns by Reincarnation. Pretty pointless and same as with Aegis I think.
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« Reply #108 on: October 27, 2013, 01:23:06 pm »

So how does Bloodstone suicide work with SK Reincarnation?  ???

He kills himself and respawns by Reincarnation. Pretty pointless and same as with Aegis I think.

If so, could be tactically useful - it'd let you get the Bloodstone heal + Reincarnate slow on-demand. Still doesn't justify building a Bloodstone on SK, though.  :P
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« Reply #109 on: October 27, 2013, 03:40:23 pm »

Do people still think a refresher is core on SK? I would personally prefer a damage / team item like AC or Mjolnir over refresher. It doesn't really matter how many times you come back to life if your entire team is dead.
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« Reply #110 on: October 27, 2013, 03:57:42 pm »

When was refresher core in SK? Its like people that give aegis to him, once the teamfight is lost chances are you are against the whole enemy team, and no matter how many respawns you have you wont make it.
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« Reply #111 on: October 27, 2013, 04:04:15 pm »

I'm a big fan of not relying on SK's reincarnate. I usually try to go Power Treads, Sange and Yasha, Assault Cuirass, Heart of Tarrasque, Abyssal Blade. Usually by this point I can't buy anything else. If I somehow still have money I might get and eye of skadi or a Monkey king bar. Occasionally I have bought a divine rapier, just for fun.
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« Reply #112 on: October 27, 2013, 04:20:02 pm »

When was refresher core in SK? Its like people that give aegis to him, once the teamfight is lost chances are you are against the whole enemy team, and no matter how many respawns you have you wont make it.
http://www.playdota.com/guides/epic-return
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« Reply #113 on: October 27, 2013, 04:45:54 pm »

When was refresher core in SK? Its like people that give aegis to him, once the teamfight is lost chances are you are against the whole enemy team, and no matter how many respawns you have you wont make it.
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« Reply #114 on: October 27, 2013, 04:55:50 pm »

To be fair, SK's new ult is pretty scary. The huge AOE 50% slow really hurts especially since it now procs the moment you kill him.

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« Reply #115 on: October 27, 2013, 05:14:23 pm »

I might be wrong but usally SKs are the last to die anyways, there is usually no real reason to focus them as they are not squishy and usually not the hard carry so, why focus him? Most of the time all the respawning magic happens once the teamfight was already won/lost.
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« Reply #116 on: October 27, 2013, 05:41:13 pm »

The trick is to not build SK as a tanky carry. Yes, he's a strength hero; that doesn't mean he needs Heart. He does no damage unless you itemize him for DPS, and the other team will quite happily ignore him if you're hitting like a kitten. By all means, consider a BKB for survivability if you must (it actually gives passable damage too); after that, focus on strong damage items. His innate crit makes Daedalus a sub-par pickup, but MKB is a solid choice, and an early Armlet is amazing.

Heck, I could almost see Radiance as viable, especially if the game's going late. Radiance would give strong farm ability (a big weakness of late-game SK), the +damage interacts nicely with both crit and aura, and the burn ensures that you're always dangerous in a teamfight. If the enemy focuses you down, they suffer a massive slow, and you resurrect moments later; if they don't focus you down, they suffer the Radiance burn for the entire battle. Only problem is, Radiance is almost never worthwhile as a second pick-up, and Armlet is such a good first item on SK...
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« Reply #117 on: October 27, 2013, 06:16:39 pm »

It's the same for like Sven or anyone else who relies on doing shittonnes of damage within the timeframe of a good stun.

Lifestealer also comes to mind. Faceless Void. Etc.

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« Reply #118 on: October 27, 2013, 06:19:04 pm »

I'm guessing a good build would be Treads -> Armlet -> BKB -> Mjolnir -> Basher / Abyssal / MKB -> Heart? :)
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