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Karkov

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Re: Dota 2 - TI4 ended. bow down to our new chinese overlords!
« Reply #600 on: August 06, 2014, 07:06:32 pm »

Welp.  Money trumps common sense once again, I suppose.

EDIT:  They're saving highlights indefinitely, just getting rid of the saved past broadcasts (also muting things in 30 minute segments if it has any copyrighted sounds, including sound effects from games).  So I guess it's not as bad as I first thought.

However, they're cutting the highlights down to 2 hour maximums, which actually makes it stupid hard on speed runners (which is like half of what I watch anyway).

Oh, they're also doing triple redundancy on past broadcasts because that's totally a smart idea.
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Re: Dota 2 - TI4 ended. bow down to our new chinese overlords!
« Reply #601 on: August 06, 2014, 07:22:36 pm »

Soooo. How much viewer/producer base is twitch going to lose over this?
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« Reply #602 on: August 06, 2014, 08:56:52 pm »

Honestly, with the sheer level of backlash, I wouldn't be surprised if the system was toned down. Not stopped entirely, but scaled back significantly. The fact that Twitch's own shows have been muted says a lot about how badly this was implemented.

Odds are, we're looking at this sort of chronology:

* At some point in the past, Twitch was told it needed to deal with DCMA requests. Most likely, this came from Google, their (soon-to-be?) owners.
* Today, Twitch implements heavy-handed changes to handle DCMA requests, guaranteeing a massive backlash.
* Tomorrow, Twitch openly solicits feedback, in the form of a Reddit AMA (which they advertised in the blog post).
* Tomorrow evening, Twitch goes to their (soon-to-be?) owners, and explains "we received unanimous feedback that this was a terrible idea that will destroy our fanbase. You sure you want us to go ahead with it?"
* The day after tomorrow, Twitch announces that their content censoring algorithm is 'undergoing changes in response to your feedback'.
* Early next week, the system is scaled back. Videos are still muted, but only for short periods of time. Appeals are handled in an automated fashion, allowing attentive streamers to quickly respond when their VODs are muted. The system is still harsher than the previous system (of no checks whatsoever), but Twitch is lauded for softening the blow. (Classic negotiating strategy: demand everything, then only demand half as much. People think you're 'meeting halfway'!)
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« Reply #603 on: August 06, 2014, 10:00:40 pm »

Has the sale of Twitch been officially announced/confirmed?  This could a way to drive down the sale price..??
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« Reply #604 on: August 07, 2014, 03:34:49 am »

I want a rebirth of all the old war3 maps through dota one day.

Valve released the alpha of the Dota 2 Workshop Tools today. They're pretty darn impressive, honestly. The tile editor reminds me a lot of Warcraft 3's World Editor, and the d2modd.in guys say that the tools allow for things on another level above warcraft's mapping scene. (Especially on the coding side of things; no more will save codes be 64 characters long, if even required!)

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« Reply #605 on: August 07, 2014, 04:24:34 am »

I'd like to play that Dota-kart mod with folks. It seems a heck-a-lot of fun.
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« Reply #606 on: August 07, 2014, 07:02:52 am »

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« Reply #607 on: August 07, 2014, 12:09:46 pm »

I want a rebirth of all the old war3 maps through dota one day.

Valve released the alpha of the Dota 2 Workshop Tools today. They're pretty darn impressive, honestly. The tile editor reminds me a lot of Warcraft 3's World Editor, and the d2modd.in guys say that the tools allow for things on another level above warcraft's mapping scene. (Especially on the coding side of things; no more will save codes be 64 characters long, if even required!)


Well, I know what I'm doing this weekend: Attempting to learn how this works, as I was a decently competent mapmaker for Warcraft 3, and would love to "port" something like Island/Jungle/Ice Troll Tribes (Jungle was my personal favorite), Parasite, or something similar.
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« Reply #608 on: August 07, 2014, 01:08:55 pm »

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I'm really looking forward to it if the modding scene turns out anywhere near as good as WC3's was.
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« Reply #609 on: August 07, 2014, 04:15:28 pm »

I wonder if I can still find my old friend who made Metastasis back in the day.  He'll probably be excited to see this, might even make a comeback.

Heheh, suddenly I remember that I was the reason why physics got nerfed in that game (ended up switching him next to a bomb while we were in a fighter craft, fun times).

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« Reply #610 on: August 07, 2014, 05:28:15 pm »

It's been more or less confirmed that this workshop release is actually the soft release of source engine 2.

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« Reply #611 on: August 07, 2014, 05:38:58 pm »

This is the dawn of a new age of warcraft 3 maps.  I'm hyped the fuck out.

I was expecting mostly the more conventional maps to show up, tower wars and hero line wars and such, I didn't realize how much flexibility we were going to get with this thing.

Parasite, dude.  One of these days, I'm gonna play parasite again.  With dota 2 graphics.  That's gonna happen.
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« Reply #612 on: August 07, 2014, 05:43:47 pm »

You could make League of Legends in it, you could make Tetris, you could make friggin Morrowind.

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« Reply #613 on: August 07, 2014, 05:51:50 pm »

Parasite, dude.  One of these days, I'm gonna play parasite again.  With dota 2 graphics.  That's gonna happen.
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Re: Dota 2 - TI4 ended. bow down to our new chinese overlords!
« Reply #614 on: August 07, 2014, 09:54:05 pm »

I hope Phase Killer (or a clone of it) is made for Dota 2. That was my favorite map.
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