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RexMundi

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Re: Dota 2 - the servers are falling down, my fair YEARBEAST...
« Reply #1215 on: February 16, 2015, 12:05:45 am »

got a luna set, and older one, from this beast, if anyone wants to trade a gift set for it.
Or, you know, you're a decent bay 12er dota player, might just have a givaway after the event
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« Reply #1216 on: February 16, 2015, 12:32:42 am »

I have like 5 sets right now I'm willing to trade for broodmother sets.
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Re: Dota 2 - the servers are falling down, my fair YEARBEAST...
« Reply #1217 on: February 16, 2015, 05:14:57 am »

what about a lina with diffusal

Not worth it unless you're using it to counter Broodmother or Warlock, in my opinion. Necronomicon does enough mana drain for Wraith King and Medusa and actually gives you stats you need. Lina doesn't have much use for the agility and diffusal blade doesn't give the HP and detection that a Necronomicon offers. (True sight aura is amazing for games where you can't quite hold on to a gem.) The slow can be good for setting up Light Strike Array, but Euls or Atos do the job far better while giving you enough mana to consistently cast your ult.

That said, Diffusal 2 rush on Windrunner can be disgusting.
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Re: Dota 2 - the servers are falling down, my fair YEARBEAST...
« Reply #1218 on: February 16, 2015, 07:18:48 pm »

That said, Diffusal 2 rush on Windrunner can be disgusting.

I rarely(only when randomed) play Windrunner, but this is a must try.
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Re: Dota 2 - the servers are falling down, my fair YEARBEAST...
« Reply #1219 on: February 16, 2015, 08:55:50 pm »

... I'm sure some people would, yes. A ridiculously small fraction compared to those who wouldn't. And to a significant extent, the vitality of a custom content creation system relies on the number of people getting exposed to it. Cripple the playerbase by putting it behind a paywall in an otherwise F2P game, and you're going to do a hellish blow to the scene's output and quality.

I'd be really happy with some kind of voluntary donation system built in (possibly even incentivized! Ads in the lobby for non-payers or something? I'd be okay with that.), but a paywall is going to be a shot to the gut for the nascent user content community, even with all the people and ideas it's inheriting from the Warcraft and Starcraft ones.

The custom game thing would be very disappointing, should they go through with it. Part of what allowed Warcraft 3 to become so popular, and even remain in active development to this day by players, is the fact that they had free custom maps. I was considering getting back into the mapmaking scene myself, as a test of my programming skills, in an attempt to port Heroes and Empires to the Source engine, but I don't know now.

Sure, the quality varied wildly between different creators, but having one game touted as a RTS become everything in between limited only by the creators' skill as a mapmaker extended the life of the game considerably.

If Icefrog has any say in it, he should remember DotA's roots and fight against it. The people creating custom maps are doing it in their own free time, and likely wouldn't see a penny of any charge made to access the maps.

It is annoying that they release Source 2.0 and then play with shenanigans like this. I'm really hoping that Valve remembers that they made their original fortunes as a game company as well, not as a Steam-based money printing platform.

As mentioned by others Blizzard tried something similar, and it failed horribly. Their own attempt at legalesing mapmakers under their whim ended up destroying the custom map scene for Starcraft 2, and I don't think it will ever recover to the heyday of Warcraft 3.
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Re: Dota 2 - the servers are falling down, my fair YEARBEAST...
« Reply #1220 on: February 17, 2015, 12:39:34 am »

You forget that Warcraft 3 custom maps weren't free, you actually had to buy the game first. Contrarily, basic DOTA 2 is free. In order to make DOTA 2 custom maps just as free as playing Warcraft 3 custom maps were they would have to charge you 20+ dollars for the privilege.
Now, of course I would prefer it to be completely free, but saying Warcraft 3 custom maps were free is completely untrue, and while I could see Valve doing it (because they are pretty damn awesome and have loads of money) I can't actually see any other game company ever releasing a free engine with free servers that gives them literally 0 money, and won't give them any money in the future.

But yeah, if they try anything remotely like what Blizzard tried to do in Starcraft 2, they are pretty sure to sabotage any hope of the custom maps being anywhere near what Warcraft 3 achieved.
E: Make no mistake Blizzard made tons of money off the Warcraft 3 custom maps, I know I personally bought Warcraft 3 3 times (due to moving and losing the disk), 2 more times then I would have bought it without the custom maps. It certainly made them a ton more money on the game then they would have otherwise, whereas if Valve does this all for free, it will make them no money. It may give them a few more DOTA 2 players (as people who play the custom maps will also play DOTA 2), but unlike Warcraft 3 DOTA 2 is a free game, and it won't really make them any money.
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Re: Dota 2 - the servers are falling down, my fair YEARBEAST...
« Reply #1221 on: February 17, 2015, 11:20:40 am »

Got Dotacinema Jugg and Sven sets from this event, hehe. It's fairly easy to farm as a premade, zeus + undy are too good, 4 straight wins so far.

If anyone wants to trade for:

Riki - Monstrous Reprisal
Lina - Ember Crane
Ench - Blessing of the Wildwing
Silencer - The Hidden Talent

Add me - http://steamcommunity.com/id/beelzeh/

Also we usually have a spot or two on Year Beast runs, so if you are on EU and don't mind tangling with potato stack, feel free to join.
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Re: Dota 2 - the servers are falling down, my fair YEARBEAST...
« Reply #1222 on: February 17, 2015, 02:06:23 pm »

Undying, Zeus and Warlock are all great heroes for this mode, specialy due to the fact they work well togheder.
Played my first year beast game today because its the first bit of free dota time I got in a while. Gots me that one starladder tiny set, meaning I now have every single bit of tiny's equipment apart from the enchanted tree weapon. Not sure If I want to keep it yet, might consider trading if see anyone willing to trade for it.
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« Reply #1223 on: February 17, 2015, 02:32:20 pm »

I'm probably not giving anything away to say that fatal bonds and splinter blast are brutal together as well.  The combos with WW and warlock are nasty, in general.

Undying is straight up broken in this mode.  You can't target tombstone with the beast and it's something you have to address instead of cc'ing the other team or their beast.
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Re: Dota 2 - the servers are falling down, my fair YEARBEAST...
« Reply #1224 on: February 17, 2015, 10:45:42 pm »

We should do a listing of what bundles we got and and that we are willing to trade for others after the event is over. I got eight item bundles right now.
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Re: Dota 2 - the servers are falling down, my fair YEARBEAST...
« Reply #1225 on: February 17, 2015, 10:49:40 pm »

It gets cluttered in this thread. I'd offer to make a google doc but, it is a lot of work, and i'm no list wizard. Maybe though..
Maybe jsut a new thread?

ALSO beast in like 7 minutes
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Re: Dota 2 - the servers are falling down, my fair YEARBEAST...
« Reply #1226 on: February 17, 2015, 11:32:39 pm »

For Bundles I've got:

Anti-Mage =  The Witch Hunter
Spectre = The Eternal Light Set

http://steamcommunity.com/id/ChaosArmor/ 
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« Reply #1227 on: February 18, 2015, 09:06:28 am »

I just realized I'm on a 10 win streak right now  8)
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Re: Dota 2 - the servers are falling down, my fair YEARBEAST...
« Reply #1228 on: February 20, 2015, 09:54:53 pm »

beast brawl in 6 min boys

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« Reply #1229 on: February 21, 2015, 12:40:26 am »

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1258853984

6 rapier clutch game
1 hour 43 minutes long
i cried when we lost
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