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Yes.

16 (80%)

No.

4 (20%)

Total Members Voted: 20

[highmax28]

I also want to add an option I want for the vote;

I want us to be feudal. A bunch of soldier lords following under the one high leader (mostly a king or lord for knights, Damiyo for samarai, etc.)

[Fodientum]

Feudalism is the same as a monarchy in the case of Bridgestreams, as it does not answer to anybody, and nobody (barring the fort's current inhabitants) answers to it. Unless you mean that you want to divide the fort up and give it to different nobles, then, yes, I think that sounds interesting.

Hmm... dividing up the fort. That sounds like a recipe for disaster fun.

[BlackFlyme]

Feudalism is the same as a monarchy in the case of Bridgestreams, as it does not answer to anybody, and nobody (barring the fort's current inhabitants) answers to it. Unless you mean that you want to divide the fort up and give it to different nobles, then, yes, I think that sounds interesting.

Hmm... dividing up the fort. That sounds like a recipe for disaster fun.

That actually sounds a bit like Broseph's hardcore dwarf village challenge. At least, like his notes on how to manage nobles.

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This is the style I've been playing with lately, it's basically just upping the ante on above ground forts and incorporating a bit of good ol fashioned capitalism. It makes animals a more serious threat and sieges are more realistic.

BSSAEABADVC:

*All construction is to occur above ground. No workshops, or buildings may be built on subterranean squares. Buildings may have basements containing stockpiles but the basement cannot larger in any dimension than the building on top of it.

*There can be no wall protecting the entire village, Nobles may have walls protecting their own property.

*There are no public services. All industries, major stockpiles, and community buildings will be "owned" by nobles and built on the property of nobles. This includes farms, mines, and quarries.

*A noble may only own as many industries as their "wealth" permits. An expedition leader may own one industry (for example agriculture) and the workshops that are a part of this , (farmers workshop and distillery).

*A legendary dwarf is a demi-noble.They can own a workshop but not the primary aspect of an industry(They can own a masons workshop but not a mine)

* All houses must be individually built: no apartments, no dormitories.

*A dwarf's house should reflect it's status and "income".  In a fort that has cloth as a primary source of income a clothier or weaver should have fairly nice accommodations.

*Cage traps can be used provided there's a noble for the trapping industry. Weapon traps may only be built on a nobles property.

*The emergency burrow must encompass all buildings that can be locked or barricaded with a drawbridge (this way dwarves will run to the nearest building)

* To have an organized military you must have a barracks and a barracks must be owned by a noble.

WARNING: Side effects may include fatal badgerstorm and sudden appreciation for nobles.

I think it's a good idea, but not something that could be set up easily at the beginning of a fort's life, when you would be more concerned with basic industries and keeping citizens clothed, fed, and happy safe sane alive.

[highmax28]

Know what? I actually LIKE that idea. But change up the nobles ruling one industry and you're set. I mean like captains are all under the commander and the commander serves the expedition leader/mayor only. Like a general to his king and the captains under him. All the captains would be responsible for a certain area that they protect with their squad (would stop sparring squads though) and the commander kind of watches over everything but isn't really attached to one area or section. And the mayor/Expedition leader just kind of rules all but only commands the commander to do his bidding. And all the lower class peasants would be governed by the captains and protected by them. Its pretty much Monarchy with a chain of command

[Adventurer]

That sounds good, can always become a monarchy later if it grows more. Maybe give the warriors a personal dining room like a "Hall of Warriors" if there is room.

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unless it stops baby making

As it is now i imagine the mayor eat and poops in the same place as everyone else.

[highmax28]

That sounds good, can always become a monarchy later if it grows more. Maybe give the warriors a personal dining room like a "Hall of Warriors" if there is room.

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unless it stops baby making

As it is now i imagine the mayor eat and poops in the same place as everyone else.

Now we're talking a language I can speak! Valhalla anyone?

[Grim Portent]

Know what? I actually LIKE that idea. But change up the nobles ruling one industry and you're set. I mean like captains are all under the commander and the commander serves the expedition leader/mayor only. Like a general to his king and the captains under him. All the captains would be responsible for a certain area that they protect with their squad (would stop sparring squads though) and the commander kind of watches over everything but isn't really attached to one area or section. And the mayor/Expedition leader just kind of rules all but only commands the commander to do his bidding. And all the lower class peasants would be governed by the captains and protected by them. Its pretty much Monarchy with a chain of command

That's how feudal monarchies worked to some extent. The king gave land to the nobles who answered to him, they then divided that land up among minor nobility who answered to them, they then oversaw each town and village who had leaders that answered to the minor nobles taxmen. Roughly speaking anyway.

We technically already have that in place, it's just that we represent a section relative to the rest of the kingdom rather than being subdivided ourselves.

[highmax28]

Like I'm in charge of carpentry? 

[Splint]

You are our most skilled general woodworker, hence everyone else will look to you for that crap. Just like Squidgen is the only  one who knows how to make a decently choppy or smashy thing without it falling apart on the first swing or that farmer who makes all our armor.

[Grim Portent]

I more meant that we technically represent a single unit that would normally comprise a civilization, we're already supposed to be the smallest unit in feudal politics: A single town. We just lack an economy and world interaction to make this apparent. It would be rare for a town to actually be divided up among nobles in the feudal era, that sort of thing came a bit later on. I think the correct term to apply would be monopoly, where the king gave the legal right to manufacture something to one man and anyone else who did it was breaking the law.

[highmax28]

I more meant that we technically represent a single unit that would normally comprise a civilization, we're already supposed to be the smallest unit in feudal politics: A single town. We just lack an economy and world interaction to make this apparent. It would be rare for a town to actually be divided up among nobles in the feudal era, that sort of thing came a bit later on. I think the correct term to apply would be monopoly, where the king gave the legal right to manufacture something to one man and anyone else who did it was breaking the law.

Good god... Imagine how much the cells would fill up if someone turned on all the jobs on all humans

[Grim Portent]

Fortunately monopolies aren't supported in the RAWs yet. If they ever are then anyone that enables them will be subject to the whims of nobles and those who befriend the king.

[highmax28]

Fortunately monopolies aren't supported in the RAWs yet. If they ever are then anyone that enables them will be subject to the whims of nobles and those who befriend the king.

I still like the feudal idea.

Just section off parts of the town and have the guards patrol them every now and then to keep the people happy and in line

[Karkov]

Fortunately monopolies aren't supported in the RAWs yet. If they ever are then anyone that enables them will be subject to the whims of nobles and those who befriend the king.

I still like the feudal idea.

Just section off parts of the town and have the guards patrol them every now and then to keep the people happy and in line

The only thing I can see wrong with this is that we have a rather limited amount of units to use/throw at a wall.  If we had proper migrant waves, I could maybe see doing this.  As is, I can see large families securing crafts for themselves and such, but not so much a feudal era kind of thing going on.

Though it definitely would be interesting if that became a thing later.  Have Grim as the High-King or some such, since he was the one who founded the settlement, and have his line carry the high-king title.  All of the other 7 starting units become vassals and switch around governance depending on who is leading the fort at the time.

EDIT:  Accidentally quoted the wrong thing, whoops.

[Grim Portent]

Tbh the intent of the poll was to ask for preferences for successors to this game. I fully intend to make a Bridgedstreams II at some point. Even if there are no streams to bridge or extinctions to reverse.

As for the current fort, I doubt we'll get beyond reaching the election of a Mayor. We may get a long time before sieges occur but by then our wealth will have been generated so high we'll be outnumbered something like 10 to 1 in each fight.