Sorry about not answering questions,
Persus. Posting from work, and slowing down and making sure I do this time.
PPE: Ahh, I see why I 'missed' your questions. Though your post was made over 20 minutes before mine, I'd had to work on mine in dribs and drabs for over an hour and wanted to post it as is once it finally was done. I saw your post, barely skimmed it, and just posted over it, with every intention of really reading it later when time allowed.
Important! Cults in Supernatural CAN NOT CONVERT. Imp, you should know this. CULT DOES NOT equal Vampire. Cmega3's death perfectly fits the flavor of Cult in Supernatural 2.
Please read Supernatural 2's flavor at least.
Also, Cult can only kill, and is a NORMAL SCUMTEAM.
The cult in S2 did not convert. I know they did not. I also know they pick someone to sacrifice. Sacrifice has more than one meaning - sacrifices -almost always- are killed throughout fantasy. But sacrifices are also sometimes possessed.
It has not been stated that Cults can only kill (or even that they can only convert) -
Meph - Is it possible for the Scum team in this game to have a 'night action' that could kill or convert, instead of always only killing or always only converting?
It is possible. Although such an ability would have to have constraints on it or some other balancing factor to keep the game fair.
So Meph has said - unless something's typoed or he misunderstood my question - that in this very game we play now - it is possible for the Scum team we face (call them Cult or Cuddles, I carefully worded that question - the Scum team we actually face in this game!) to have kill and conversion both - and he said "It is possible."
I didn't ask him if the kill-only results from S2 were the only possible results that the Scum team in S2 could have gotten when they picked their sacrifices. Do you want to ask him that?
Do you believe Caz rezzed Nerjin and NQT claimed that he did and that's why you think he's a converter?
Great question. I believe it's possible - and if that DID happen, then we'd better kill NQT asap, because NQT worked hard to look like a confirmed (Town) priest. Why? The only reason I can think of is to cover being a converter as being another converter. Fortune Tellers have appeared 4 times in previous S games (though once as Scum), making them the most common of the investigative types (Dreamwalkers and Seers 3x, theif, sage and oracle 1x). Fortune tellers are also one of the easiest to 'defend' against for a Converter- just camoflague as another changer type. And converters are very important for their team to protect. There's really no 'defense' against the other investigators that I can think of.
However - this is only possible. Do I believe it happened - no, but I believe it could have happened. And is only important because of the danger a Converter presents if it exists in play.
And this is Persus13 not NQT who posted. However, I'd love to know what your basis in thinking NQT is a converter is from. Is it because he's a priest?
Whoops, was supposed to be another quote insert there, and a direction to NQT.
I don't know if he's priest or not. I don't even know if he's a Changer or not - or if he'd still appear to be a Changer after being checked out by a Fortune Teller - After all, if he's telling the truth about Nerjin, then he's used up his oneshot Change and might appear now as a survivor - and be totally honest about being a priest, just he's no longer a Changer. No Fortune Teller has ever investigated a priest after they used their res in a Supernatural game yet. I tentatively believe a 'spent Priest' would still read as changer though.
No, my worry about NQT is because of how careful he was to establish himself as a priest - he was the game's second role claim, and unlike the first (yours), which brought otherwise hidden knowledge to the game (no one but you knew you were attacked or the details) - we knew someone had rezzed Nerjin.
If NQT is Town then he surely told the truth about his action and its results. He had no idea if the rezzed Nerjin was Town or not, but he sure was in a hurry to establish himself as the cause.
If NQT is Scum and priest (and I do believe he is), then he had to know that Nerjin didn't come back Scum (Scum priest in the past did know, S5 N3 if I remember right, but not verifying right now). He may or may not have thought that maybe Nerjin returned as Town - or maybe Scum priests get enough clues (since they expect to res someone as Scum) that he had reason to think Nerjin was still Town).
NQT was pushing very hard that having ressed Nerjin as Town -proved- that NQT was Town, since Scum -could not- do that. I don't buy that, that's a bad assumption and trying to use that shows further bad intentions.
But - if NQT is Scum, and is a type of Converter - then he knows the rest of the Scum team - which means he knows there's a priest on the Scum team. He can breadcrumb (even if he couldn't get Caz's cooperation - he can just not reveal the breadcrumb then if he can't for some reason 'use' Caz's role - like if Caz was lynched D1). He's covered if the most common investigator type checks him - in fact, why even check him. On D2 he claimed Priest with 'proof' of an unchallenged res - and if we ever found Caz, why would we suspect two Scum priests, so with NQT being the 'second priest' clearly NQT is Town. (that one works even if NQT isn't a priest or a converter)
And the final reason why I suspect NQT could be a converter, he reacted to my challenging your assertion that he could not be a Vampire Lord. If he's not one, or anything like one, why react? But he did. That makes me react - and the reaction is 'lynch him fast if possible'.