Yep, voting now. Just finished lining up every post Cmega3's made and considering them all.
He looks so newbie to me I don't think he's actually really even scanned any finished Mafia games, let alone read our suggested reading before the game started.
He looks so newbie that I can't read him as anything else but newbie.
No time to properly repeat that with Persus13 right now, it's off to work time shortly, but Persus13 isn't a first or second place lynch choice. I'm not afraid of a 3-way tie at ~5.5 hours to day end, that's plenty of time to resolve it if it happened.
Considering the scummiest to me of Cmega3, Nerjin, and Max White, (the current 1st and 2nd place vote picks), Nerjin is the highest. I'm worried about Cmega3 being so new and so imitative that he may be unable to do anything to distinguish himself from newbie/Scum. If he has to go because he can't do that, I've nothing against him going now. Cmega3 says he's been sick, has had school, been very busy...
Regardless, It'll help if people read these. They're fun no matter what.
Supernatural 5
Supernatural 4
Supernatural 3
Supernatural 2
Supernatural 1
Thanks for the links, I just read through 1, and I plan on reading several more, other than the 70 page one (seemed too intimidating)
I'm also reading through it.
Anyways, if you really think I shouldn't begin with supernatural, I may go for a begginers' one and come back later.
Cmega3 - almost a month ago, you said you were reading those games. How far did you get through them? How much do you feel you understand about each, both in terms of 'what was going on' and 'why people made the posts they made'? In general, when you read each player's posts, do you think you understand why they posted as they did or does it all seem pretty much random?
Anyway, if Cmega3 hasn't caught up on his understanding after a month of preparation, I don't know that he's capable of fixing this by the start or even the end of D2, making him a likely high vote target for exactly these same reasons.
I don't see great Scumminess in Max White yet. I dislike his tunneling. I worry that I don't see much of what he sees or feel the conviction he expresses in his claims as I read his posts. I use that as a form of truth tell, and it's not ringing for me. But I want to see more of his play over time and read more of his intentions (if I can) before I'm ready to step to remove him from play, he's not a high scum pick.
Nerjin is either scum or just a player unable to stand, being tossed helplessly around by the requests of each player interacting with him. In a sense I see him as almost being in Cmega3's boat - the same playing choices that seem so Scummy, I don't see him as being able to play out of the situation he is in (honestly or dishonestly - be he Town playing like this or Scum playing like this).
I note his tone change when he answers me
here as compared to his immediately
preceding post. Nerjin is a player profoundly affected by how he is spoken to. This makes him very, very easily manipulated - that weakness doesn't mean he's innocent.
One thing I wonder about, this situation 'started' when Nerjin reached out to defend NQT from Max's arguments. NQT's reaction was to invite multiple people to consider Max and Nerjin, which flowed easily and directly into a consideration of Nerjin's scumminess, which then greatly multiplied the types of pressure Nerjin was under, the levels of affect triggered... Question boils down to is 'Nerjin Scum' or is 'Nerjin helpless' under these conditions. Arguably same issue for Cmega3, but Cmega's intense inexperience clouds that water more.
While I wouldn't mind either player having more time so I could get a stronger feel of their evolving play, I do view
Nerjin as the scummiest, and of the three likely lynch targets today, he's my pick.
PPE: I see this returns us to a 2-way vote tie. I accept this for now - we've still got that ~5.5 hours to resolve it. I'll be periodically checking in.