Ok I'm going to need to split this into more than one post, otherwise I'm going to mess up the formatting somewhere...
notquitethere You said I'd made a mistake, I acknowledged the mistake and then made a comment about the early game in general. Still failing to see how this makes me scum...
I'm getting tired of this little strawman that you keep knocking down that I'm voting you because you made that single comment early game. Go see that multi point explanation I gave to Jim, I'm not calling you scum for that single reply, I'm calling you scum because when questioned on it you got less and less consistent in why you were providing this context (From you are bad to everybody is bad to you are bad), you decided that it was better to just
clarify again rather than actually answer a question, and finally you assumed that I thought you were scum because of my questions, thus asking me to vote you (Paranoid behavior).
I don't see anything wrong with my answer. Obviously I don't think you should ignore what you take to be scumtells and so I took that part of your question to be rhetorical. Did you actually want me to spell that out?
Yea, that is why I specifically asked it. Heck I even reworded it for you just in case.
Now that I have finally got a reply from you, if you think it doesn't make any difference weather you are playing well or not, what sort of a defense if claiming you aren't playing well? Why make that claim if you yourself think it is irrelevant?
You mischaracterise what I'm doing. You explicitly stated that I am scum. I deny this. I fail to see how we can both be right about this! I'm trying to get town to appraise your arguments and make a decision. I don't think they should lynch you if they disagree with you: I think you're wrong about me but you're hardly the scummiest player.
Try rereading exactly what I said but instead of thinking 'we' means you and I, try to keep the context of the statement in mind and realize I was talking about Nerjin and myself. I pointed out that you were trying to make it seem like between us either I was correct or Nerjin was, and that 'we' (Nerjin and myself) could still both be wrong.
What did you forget there are other people in the game for a second?
As well as myself, who else do you have a read on?
To some degree everybody, with the exception of Toony who is somewhat inactive right now, but apparently for meta reasons. I really wish he was here, but things are what they are.
Imp How much focus, over the last three days or so, would you say you have put into finding Scum other than notquitethere? You have said that he is Scum; can you explain your reasoning for your ongoing Scumhunting of him without compromising your purpose?
I'm not sure how to answer that question... Does focus come in a finite supply?
I think he is scum, my purpose is to lynch scum, as such as things are right now, my purpose is to lynch NQT.
Did you misread Nerjin's words of "very little evidence" as "very little experience"? If not, where did Nerjin say this?
Yes, you are correct. I totally misread his comment.
Anyway to address his actual question then, I have much more evidence on NQT that he has on me, yet he still votes for me. If he thinks insufficient evidence is a scum tell he is a pretty big hypocrite.
Toaster NQT bought it up to try and justify having an especially good wincon.
This is false.
What do you make of reply number 107? I would like it but I apparently am unable to link to specific posts right now..
He just said he was optimistic and that his wincon wasn't impossible. How is that "an especially good wincon?"
He also listed several other wincons he had in the past claiming they were unwinnable, including a lot of town roles. If in a single post he is willing to say he has a winnable condition, and in the same post he lists several town roles, including some cop roles that are apparently unwinnable, it stands to reason he has a better wincon than then a town player, even one with a good ability.
Yes, he goes on to correct himself that those are actually winnable, but the implication that his is especially good, being better than the average ones, is still there.
I disagree. NQT has enough experience to know what he's getting in to by risking a "Not To Be Done" town maneuver. Sure, there are some terrible, terrible things to do (worst offender that comes to mind is a non-cop townie fakeclaiming a guilty inspect to push his agenda) but there are some lesser things (like this) that could be worth a risk. That said, I don't even see his claim as a bad thing in the first place.
Attacking him because he dares ignore the "norm" is a poor reason. In fact, what exactly is your case on him? Could I get it in a concise and neat package, because it's really murky.
How concise do you want it?
Getting defensive about a series of questions posed at him, especially in regard to implying that just by questioning him I thought he was scummy enough for a vote.
Making what I at least consider an anti town movie to try and justify saying something that could be scummy.
Trying to force the town into a false dichotomy of either I'm right or Nerjin is.
So that was questions directed at me, give me a little time to read everything carefully.