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[Taricus]

And it doesn't have the hybrid engine, you realise?

[LordSlowpoke]

On the 5000t supergun:

I guess slowpoke need to figure out whether what kind of gun he would want. A long gun would be good enough to hit a capital ship but its lack of maneuverability would hurt itself. A mortar guarantees a large charge, and if perfectly designed there it could be bigger than anything ever built, but whether it can go inside the range of coastal guns is another question. A howitzer is something in between.

i meant a gun with a range huge enough that you could fire at things from out of range of the coastal guns, therefore a long gun

who knows these things

[evilcherry]

And it doesn't have the hybrid engine, you realise?

And thus there is no need to redesign from ground up. Just remove that and it will be good enough to go.

(speaking of this, when are large ships 100% designed before they are launched?)

[Taricus]

You do realise that the annihilator was a modification of the original great white design, right?

[evilcherry]

You do realise that the annihilator was a modification of the original great white design, right?

and thus it does not really need a large slot.

Fitting more boilers into the hull instead of diesel propulsion is not a good use of large slots IMHO.

[Taricus]

I also put it under a med/small slot as well Evil

EDIT: It's a turbine, not a boiler.

[LordSlowpoke]

You do realise that the annihilator was a modification of the original great white design, right?

and thus it does not really need a large slot.

Fitting more boilers into the hull instead of diesel propulsion is not a good use of large slots IMHO.

mucking about with steam or diesel propulsion instead of focusing on engines that can use our liquified coal^TM is silly

[evilcherry]

I also put it under a med/small slot as well Evil

EDIT: It's a turbine, not a boiler.

Well you need both turbines and boilers to make steam ship. In addition I'm not a big fan of designating variants with different names.

You do realise that the annihilator was a modification of the original great white design, right?

and thus it does not really need a large slot.

Fitting more boilers into the hull instead of diesel propulsion is not a good use of large slots IMHO.

mucking about with steam or diesel propulsion instead of focusing on engines that can use our liquified coal^TM is silly

We have tons of coal, and steam is actually more efficient for a continuous load (mainly because of more efficient expansion). And that does not mean the boilers cannot work on oil.

[3_14159]

i meant a gun with a range huge enough that you could fire at things from out of range of the coastal guns, therefore a long gun

who knows these things

This is just whatever knowledge I have gathered, basically the range is dependant on the projectile's force when leaving the gun. And the projectile's area seen from the front + how well it is formed, as those two influence the air resistance.
Now, to get a projectile to be quick, you can do two things: Increase the percentage of gunpowder compared to the projectile (more energy by explosion acting on a smaller mass --> more speed), or increase the length of the barrel (because a certain percentage of the energy escapes). The latter seems to be about proportional to 1-SQRT(ratio bullet length to barrel length), meaning that, for example, the difference between a L/4 and a L/50 barrel seem to be about 30%. And yes, that is a very rough estimate, and does not include things like accuracy.
So, basically, the difference between a 'mortar' and a 'normal' artillery piece is that the former uses the fact that he has a very short barrel length to achieve a much higher calibre. Since a higher calibre means more explosives to fit in a high explosive shell, that also means more damage.

I also put it under a med/small slot as well Evil

EDIT: It's a turbine, not a boiler.

Well you need both turbines and boilers to make steam ship. In addition I'm not a big fan of designating variants with different names.

Call it the Annihilator B?

[Taricus]

Eh, maybe. But remember Alpha's limit is only for LARGE projects, not medium or small ones, so any actual ships will get through.

[evilcherry]

I now tend to guess that slowpoke needed something more akin to the German railway guns. Bear in mind that these monstrosities need a very, very stable base to fire, they are damn expensive, and their rate of fire is atrocious.

p.s. their recoil force is in the order of around 50-100 MN. meaning ~50000-100000 Metric Ton-force.

[LordSlowpoke]

I now tend to guess that slowpoke needed something more akin to the German railway guns. Bear in mind that these monstrosities need a very, very stable base to fire, they are damn expensive, and their rate of fire is atrocious.

p.s. their recoil force is in the order of around 50-100 MN. meaning ~50000-100000 Metric Ton-force.

assuming freshwater, that'd only be 20m/s² direct acceleration

you should be aware that this negotation is pointless as i'm not passing up making this game sillier with superweapons - consider the albatross~

[Taricus]

If you're going to make superweapons, atleast do the sort involving fission. Atleast we get something useful out of it

[10ebbor10]

I now tend to guess that slowpoke needed something more akin to the German railway guns. Bear in mind that these monstrosities need a very, very stable base to fire, they are damn expensive, and their rate of fire is atrocious.

p.s. their recoil force is in the order of around 50-100 MN. meaning ~50000-100000 Metric Ton-force.

assuming freshwater, that'd only be 20m/s² direct acceleration

you should be aware that this negotation is pointless as i'm not passing up making this game sillier with superweapons - consider the albatross~

Which is not that good, actually.

On a side note, the long gun could possibly work using a multiple chamber cannon, which significantly reduces the immediate stress. Something like the V3, I suppose. It would be interesting though.

[Taricus]

Guys, we do need to vote for the specialists, otherwise that academy of ours is going to waste...