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[Patrick Hunt]

Which is why I want to rebuild smaller and more agile.

Our fighter is a bomber only slightly smaller, thats why it's out matched.
If the Sparrow was designed from scratch not taken from the Osprey it'd crush the enemy plane and be cheaper.

[10ebbor10]

Nah, not really.

[Patrick Hunt]

Well with just 1 engine odds are it'd still be cheaper and if we'd built from scratch not from the bomber it'd likely have been made smaller and more aerodynamic because it'd be built for it from the beginning.

Multi purpose always comes with hang ups from other roles that make it adequate in multiple roles but weaker then purpose built versions.

[Taricus]

Hmm... Looks like the lightning and the sparrow are equal then. We could stand to redesign the engine, but that should be a small task in comparison.

And so long as we get even a 0.75 KD/R against the lightnings, I'm happy. Those two-engine fighters can't be cheap to produce and if they're losing three to every four we do they're definitely on the back foot in terms of attrition.

[Patrick Hunt]

Only until they increase production, when we had quality over quantity we ramped up production to bring the ratio into our favor, it's highly likely they're gonna do the same thing sooner rather then later to counter us.

We can't count on them just letting us have the advantage without a fight.

[10ebbor10]

Lightning is still faster, even with the change. It hasn't changed much, actually.

[Taricus]

And that's when they run their stockpiles empty. As stated, their craft do use weaker weapons compared to our 15mm, but have thicker armour.Update the ammo of the 15mm to be more damaging, and we'll start running them ragged once more.

[Patrick Hunt]

Gun wise is not the problem, the enemy plane is more maneuverable so it's hitting it thats the problem more then ammo.

[Taricus]

Due to their size they aren't as manoeuvrable, and with the increased climb rate, I'd reckon that would further impede it's ability to turn and such.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Only until they increase production, when we had quality over quantity we ramped up production to bring the ratio into our favor

You are saying it like we can't increase production ourself...

They lost to Ravens not because we produced better aircraft, but because we had better cost\quality ratio.
Ratio for Ravens\Lightnings (yay, name from part three of the story becoming official) is looking close as 1 to 1, and we surely outproduce them

Also, not sure if 10ebbor10 accounts for that, we surely have more pilots with combat experience, as we lost fewer aircrafts, and many of our losses should be with pilot survived because we fought mostly over our territiry, while most of their losses are final and we have some POW ernemy pilots... BTW, we should interrogate them and learn as much as possible about their aircraft to develop countertactics

the enemy plane is more maneuverable so it's hitting it thats the problem more then ammo

it's clear that the enemy is faster, has a better climb rate and is slightly better armored. Their weaponry is slightly weaker, but capable of damaging and destroying a   Sparrow.

See no indication about it being more manuevarable...  In fact I am 90% sure that sparrows are either more manuevarable than Lightinings or have similar turning

[Patrick Hunt]

Maybe, but if all they had over us was better armor and speed theres no reason they should be beating us 1 on 1 like they are.

Now you want to produce more planes, but when we we're doing it with the Ravens you argued against it every single time..... make up your mind.
Ravens 1-1 to lightnings in what regard?
The Raven is inferior in every single respect and takes a lot more losses then the Lightning does when the 2 face off, we need a full Raven unit to take a single Lightning.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Maybe, but if all they had over us was better armor and speed theres no reason they should be beating us 1 on 1 like they are.

Speed is the most important characteristic of a fighter

Ravens 1-1 to lightnings in what regard?

I meant Sparrows, obliviously. Just bad mistake

Yep. Ravens have much worse cost to quality ratio, that's why we removing them from production

[3_14159]

Rocket is ammunition, and doesn't need separate production. It requires explosives and special fuels, though only in minimal amounts.

Thanks! Any reports on effectiveness?

Maybe, but if all they had over us was better armor and speed theres no reason they should be beating us 1 on 1 like they are.

Speed, rate of climb and armour.
Meaning they are able to effectively zoom and boom - diving in, shooting and then using their now doubly higher speed and rate of climb to get back up there faster than the Sparrow can follow.

[Aseaheru]

What grenades are we makeing?

[Taricus]

The ones the comintern bloc gave us.