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[DreXav]

I serve a Lawful god. Therefore I don't like Chaotic types. I am a disciplined military officer. Therefore I don't like Chaotic types. I serve a Lawful god. Therefore I probably know you're Chaotic. And besides all that, you ordered me around, when I don't consider you my superior. Therefore  I don't like you.

You belong to legion of Doom, dabble in negative energy and probably necromancy, consider asking for heal "ordering", which you whimsically turn down... you are anything but lawful, really.

A: I'm not lawful, my god is. I am True Neutral Lalala I do what I feel is best.
B: You are being prejudiced against my organization based on name. Perhaps the Legion of Doom are really nice guys with a thing for the apocalypse?
C: Negative Energy Use and Necromancy isn't evil. It's even supported by my god. You're just calling me evil based on an ideological difference.
D: Pushiness and an expectation of free and prioritized healing dictates otherwise.

A: so you are acting with bias of your God, good job.
B: it's my prerogative as chaotic neutral, though for clarify - where is your biography?
C: I beg to differ that necromancy isn't evil.
D: Me asking you for a heal after I was wounded doing my job is hardly pushiness. "Free" heal? You are a cleric of the party, we pretty much expect you to do YOUR job.

You really got a bias since that arena.

You have an odd definition of lawful...

Turning down a wounded companion in need based on a whim and newly-gained bias is not something I would consider "strong moral code" or "discipline".

[Remuthra]

I serve a Lawful god. Therefore I don't like Chaotic types. I am a disciplined military officer. Therefore I don't like Chaotic types. I serve a Lawful god. Therefore I probably know you're Chaotic. And besides all that, you ordered me around, when I don't consider you my superior. Therefore  I don't like you.

You belong to legion of Doom, dabble in negative energy and probably necromancy, consider asking for heal "ordering", which you whimsically turn down... you are anything but lawful, really.

A: I'm not lawful, my god is. I am True Neutral Lalala I do what I feel is best.
B: You are being prejudiced against my organization based on name. Perhaps the Legion of Doom are really nice guys with a thing for the apocalypse?
C: Negative Energy Use and Necromancy isn't evil. It's even supported by my god. You're just calling me evil based on an ideological difference.
D: Pushiness and an expectation of free and prioritized healing dictates otherwise.

A: so you are acting with bias of your God, good job.
B: it's my prerogative as chaotic neutral, though for clarify - where is your biography?
C: I beg to differ that necromancy isn't evil.
D: Me asking you for a heal after I was wounded doing my job is hardly pushiness. "Free" heal? You are a cleric of the party, we pretty much expect you to do YOUR job.

You really got a bias since that arena.

I could say the same of you, guy who keeps threatening to kill me and constantly tries to find ways to argue I can't do things.

A: That's sort of how religion works.
B: I don't have it on the internets.
C: Ideological differences. Is golemancy evil? Why is necromancy?
D: I have a job not to waste my limited healing potential so I can stop people from dying. If you get yourself constantly stabbed, well, that's why you have all the hp, isn't it?

[Naryar]

You guys should stop before this goes into more ingame effects and we lose a party member.

You have an odd definition of lawful...

Turning down a wounded companion in need based on a whim and newly-gained bias is not something I would consider "strong moral code" or "discipline".

I was talking about the "necromancy is nonlawful" thing.

Hey, he's true neutral, he can be an asshole occasionally. It's not like you and I haven't shown occasional comptempt of another party member.

And no, necromancy is not inherently evil. The majority of necromancers being "HURR EVIL" and the majority of undead being the same doesn't mean that neutral or good necromancers cannot exist.

Necromancy is a tool. Where you are on the alignment chart depends on how you use that tool.

And to hell with Paizo's official lack of moral complexity.

[Remuthra]

You guys should stop before this goes into more ingame effects and we lose a party member.

I agree. This is getting dangerously close to the dreaded Alignment Debate.

[DreXav]

I could say the same of you, guy who keeps threatening to kill me and constantly tries to find ways to argue I can't do things.

There we go, confirmed ooc bias. I am talking about your character PURELY from IC perspective. Not ooc. You are mad at me calling you out cheating on several roll types and pointing out your shield fantasy is unfeasible. Sorry, I just made a mental note to verify your actions. Feel free to do the same for me.
We all joke about killing each other or some other. That's ooc, shouldn't carry over to IC, man.

A: That's sort of how religion works.
B: I don't have it on the internets.
C: Ideological differences. Is golemancy evil? Why is necromancy?
D: I have a job not to waste my limited healing potential so I can stop people from dying. If you get yourself constantly stabbed, well, that's why you have all the hp, isn't it?

A: No, you are a true neutral so you of all people don't have to act like a fanatic or take on astrong conviction.
B: How about getting it up then, eh?
C: My character believes it to be a despicable and sacreligious art where the dead are disturbed and raised as mindless thralls, all the more disgusting if the dead used to be a sentient being.
D: You are really ridiculous. You have to heal people to stop people from dying, yes. I got stabbed because I was doing my job on the front line. It was a roll of luck that I got stabbed and not someone else.

You guys should stop before this goes into more ingame effects and we lose a party member.

The problem is that Remuthra's ooc leaked into IC and is causing issues for my gameplay, hence not letting it go until it's resolved one way or another.

[Naryar]

A: No, you are a true neutral so you of all people don't have to act like a fanatic or take on astrong conviction.

Hah, no. A true neutral can have strong convictions or even act like a fanatic (the latter's called Stupid Neutral). Else it would be boring to roleplay.

True neutral is like the other alignments, except it has different goals who do not align with Good, Evil, Law or Chaos.

Or you can see it as something between all other alignments, which incorporates parts of each alignment but not enough to put your character in another alignment.

[DreXav]

Or you can see it as something between all other alignments, which incorporates parts of each alignment but not enough to put your character in another alignment.

No, "Neutral means you act naturally in any situation, without prejudice or compulsion". Religion doesn't automatically mean you must be a fanatic or strong-believer, either.

I think your concept is more of lawful-neutral.

That aside, I appeal to Remuthra to publicly shake hands, drop the ooc bias/butthurtness and secretly plot to murder each other.
You know, like upstanding adults would.

[Rolepgeek]

So you're saying someone isn't allowed to play their character a certain way because you interpret what the alignment means differently from them?

Wow, dude.

On a side-note, refusing to heal people is just a generally asshole thing to do, and you should really get up your biography, Remuthra.

Also, I probably won't be able to attend. Birthday stuff.

[Naryar]

So 1/3 of the party is basically out ? Well. How do we play, do we play at 5 only and with one GMcontrol when Rem isn't here ?

Maybe we should allow the new guys who want to play some play and characters...

[Rolepgeek]

I also can't read the chat archive on my Ipad, and because of the B-day stuff I won't be able to get access to a comuter for a while. This is frustrating.

[Remuthra]

So 1/3 of the party is basically out ? Well. How do we play, do we play at 5 only and with one GMcontrol when Rem isn't here ?

Maybe we should allow the new guys who want to play some play and characters...

Or maybe we could "Lease" absent characters to new interested people, so they can get a feel for the campaign?

[Naryar]

So 1/3 of the party is basically out ? Well. How do we play, do we play at 5 only and with one GMcontrol when Rem isn't here ?

Maybe we should allow the new guys who want to play some play and characters...

Or maybe we could "Lease" absent characters to new interested people, so they can get a feel for the campaign?

But then out-of-context things and stuff.

[Remuthra]

So 1/3 of the party is basically out ? Well. How do we play, do we play at 5 only and with one GMcontrol when Rem isn't here ?

Maybe we should allow the new guys who want to play some play and characters...

Or maybe we could "Lease" absent characters to new interested people, so they can get a feel for the campaign?

But then out-of-context things and stuff.

True enough. Twould cut down on superfluous characters in Limbo, though.

[DreXav]

So you're saying someone isn't allowed to play their character a certain way because you interpret what the alignment means differently from them?

Wow, dude.

No, I just believe his interpretation of the alignment is too much off the mark(or ignoring too much of it) and he's not playing consistently with it, thus not really playing that particular alignment but another. Maybe an alignment change would be in order if that's really the case.

Plus that whole new bias against me that was absent in first session but came in strong after the arena OOC session.

[DreXav]

So 1/3 of the party is basically out ? Well. How do we play, do we play at 5 only and with one GMcontrol when Rem isn't here ?

Maybe we should allow the new guys who want to play some play and characters...

Or maybe we could "Lease" absent characters to new interested people, so they can get a feel for the campaign?

But then out-of-context things and stuff.

Yeah, won't work too well. Either a permanent substitution or just GM-played. OR, we could take load off GM's shoulder and play the absentees... dibs on Kangur, my ol' buddy.