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Harbingerjm

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Re: The Glorious Design Bureau of the People
« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2013, 06:14:47 am »
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Lasgun, ho.
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Re: The Glorious Design Bureau of the People
« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2013, 06:17:17 am »
3. Improve th assualt rifle by expanding the mechanisim and improving the sights.Small
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Re: The Glorious Design Bureau of the People
« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2013, 06:27:23 am »
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Is the Assault Rifle the proposal 2 from last turn? If so, it's probably rather a semi-auto (Infantry Rifle) than an assault rifle, as it lacks the full auto setting. I hope so, at least. I propose we call it the Revolutionary Rifle.
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There are two ways we can go with it: Choosing Cheap, Reliable and Lightweight and giving each of our soldiers one, or Easily Disassembled, Inconspicuous and Reliable to supply it to partisans. I'll probably go with the first one, but not sure yet.

Question concerning the Build Points: I'm from that assuming that the Mosin-Nagant costs double the Valiyze pistol? If so, can you include the costs on the design summaries? I think that would be quite helpful to compare the designs with one another.

Now, for designs... we most definitely need some machine gun, as none has been designed. This machine gun needs to be man-portable and useful for anti-personnel design. I believe that 15mm would be too big for that. So I'm going to do that again:
4 (small): I propose building an air-cooled, man-portable (light) and belt-fed machine gun, using the 8x54mm bullet and with an integrated bipod.
Counterproposal 1.1: Design the 120mm gun anew, not using the existing 120mm as a basis.
I believe we can probably get better designs by not modifying the old ones.
5 (medium?): Begin modifying the truck's engine. Reliability and fuel efficiency come to mind.
This is to design an efficient engine we can use for years to come, for example in trucks, armoured cars and halftracks. It will be too heavy for planes (except bombers, maybe) and too less power for tanks, but it will be a good start.
One question and one proposal for the game itself:
- Should we include the votes of the one creating a proposal in the list?
- I propose we give each project a unique and automatic name. This will be constructed as such: "Project YYXX", where YY is the year it's first proposed and XX the number of the proposal. For example, the pistol will be called "Project 2011", or, as it has a name, Valyize. This will make referring to it easier. Thoughts on that?

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C: Build academy for engineers.
D: Switch production to the semi-auto rifle. Even with their lack of reliability and higher cost, they will allow something like four times the sustained rate of fire - which is something I value higher.
And, voting for 4, A, Gamma

Also, redesignating proposal 3 to proposal 4. Please edit your post to reflect that to avoid confusion.
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Re: The Glorious Design Bureau of the People
« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2013, 06:29:47 am »
It's proposal 2. Renaming.

Also, adding costs to design summary.
« Last Edit: September 19, 2013, 06:35:09 am by 10ebbor10 »
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Re: The Glorious Design Bureau of the People
« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2013, 01:13:38 pm »
Proposals:
7. Work on developing body armour for our soldiers that is better than a woollen coat. At least some protection against shrapnel. (small?)
8. Design high-powered, lightweight, binoculars for use by artillery observers and officers. (small) .

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Re: The Glorious Design Bureau of the People
« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2013, 01:39:03 pm »
9. Build an fully automatic version of the Valyize automatic pistol as a SMG.
Add a full stock, longer a 250mm Barrel, a forgrip and work on a bigger magazine.

My votes 2,4,6,9,A,beta
Traits:Cheap,Reliable,Heavy punch

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« Last Edit: September 19, 2013, 02:27:14 pm by Funk »
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Agree, plus that's about the LAST thing *I* want to see from this kind of game - author spending valuable development time on useless graphics.

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Re: The Glorious Design Bureau of the People
« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2013, 02:21:40 pm »
10. A LMG chambered for the 8x54mm bullet featuring a tubular mag, collapsible stock and blowback operation. The length in all should be no more than 1.5m and should be designed to be easily mounted on a tripod or a mount.

11. A small, six wheeled APC capable of holding a crew of two (one before driving and one behind in an open turret) along with eight troops on side mounted open bench seats. The seats should be recessed slightly, and have some form of bar arrangement that can fold down for the troops. Efforts should be made to make this as fast and as stable as possible while still remaining small (no more than 4 meters high (not counting turret) and no more than 9 meters long. Also no more than 3.5 meters wide.

E. a rocket chest chamber for rockets up to 100 pounds of thrust.


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Voting for 1.1,4,8,10,11,A,C,E, Beta,Gamma, cheap, reliable and heavy punch.
« Last Edit: September 19, 2013, 02:34:36 pm by Aseaheru »
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Re: The Glorious Design Bureau of the People
« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2013, 02:23:22 pm »
((As a note, please both include your votes separately as well as adding them to the spoiler. Dropping the later is OK, but without separate votes it's rather hard to do recounts. ))
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Re: The Glorious Design Bureau of the People
« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2013, 05:47:37 pm »
for the pistol: reliable heavy punch accurate
12.(medium) water cooled belt-fed lmg with a high rate of fire that uses the 8x54 round
13.(small) small patrol boat with a mount for machine guns
14.(large) quad-plane similar to the Fokker mk3
15.(small) 20mm cannons for lightly armoured targets
F. make a building for farming(?) anemones to use as weak pain killers
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1,2,4,6,B

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Alpha: Sell half of produced Valyizes
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Beta: Sell half of produced trucks
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Gamma: Buy aircrafts
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Cheap
Har, 3_1,Funk, AseaHeru
Reliable
Har, 3_1,Funk, AseaHeru ICBM pilot
Easily Disassembled
Har
Remarkably accurate
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Heavy punch
Funk, AseaHeru ICBM pilot
Lightweight (In fact, it might almost weight nothing)
3_1
Inconspicuous
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Quote from: Mimodo on July 31, 2014, 07:52:10 am
On the plus side, they managed to kill off 20+ children

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Re: The Glorious Design Bureau of the People
« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2013, 07:03:36 pm »
12 is almost identical to 10... Only it is listed as water cooled. That seems to be it...
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Re: The Glorious Design Bureau of the People
« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2013, 03:00:36 am »
Quote from: Aseaheru on September 19, 2013, 07:03:36 pm
12 is almost identical to 10... Only it is listed as water cooled. That seems to be it...
In fact, we have three different LMG proposals, none as counterproposal or modification:
4 (small): air-cooled, man-portable (light) and belt-fed machine gun, using the 8x54mm bullet and with an integrated bipod.
10. A LMG chambered for the 8x54mm bullet featuring a tubular mag, collapsible stock and blowback operation. The length in all should be no more than 1.5m and should be designed to be easily mounted on a tripod or a mount.
12.(medium) water cooled belt-fed lmg with a high rate of fire that uses the 8x54 round

Their only differences seem to be belt-fed and air-cooled vs tubular magazine and collapsible stock vs belt-fed and water-cooled...

Adding a vote for B, and adding ICBM's votes to the tally.
And, since we lack a large project, I'll add a vote for 3.
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So, coming out to:
(1) Improve the 120mm gun,
(2) 15mm machine gun
(4) Improve infantry rifle
(6) Improve truck engine

(B) Salvage destroyer and expand dock

Valyzie pistol: Cheap, Reliable and Heavy Punch.
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Re: The Glorious Design Bureau of the People
« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2013, 03:46:27 am »
I see nothing bad if our large team will work on 120mm gun and I am removing my vote for 3 (in fact I never voted for it, only proposed)

Also, I vote for for  4,5  and C

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Re: The Glorious Design Bureau of the People
« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2013, 03:52:16 am »
what I meant when I said high rate of fire was a little bit higher than it can handle without good airflow so I guess I should have put water and air cooled if that is possible.
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Quote from: Mimodo on July 31, 2014, 07:52:10 am
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Re: The Glorious Design Bureau of the People
« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2013, 02:06:40 pm »
We could always make it to find its rate of fire will not require water cooling. Thats what happened with the lewis gun.
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And voting for new things. (F,13,15)
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Re: The Glorious Design Bureau of the People
« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2013, 02:20:23 pm »
Quote from: 10ebbor10 on September 19, 2013, 02:23:22 pm
((As a note, please both include your votes separately as well as adding them to the spoiler. Dropping the later is OK, but without separate votes it's rather hard to do recounts. ))
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