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[LordSlowpoke]

Hello prince sir!

Today is a glorious day in the Most Serene Republic of Dollopstan. The Grand Prince is dead! A council has arosen in order to determine the next Grand Prince. A name commonly found on the lips of its wise men is Artim Bolochnov, the son of an industrial magnate and heir to his vast fortune.

The election will be concluded in twenty four months. In the interim, as is usual, the Grand Prince's wife will personally lead the regency council. Are you a bad enough dude to seize control of Dollopstan?

Spoiler: Dollopstan: additional data (click to show/hide)

Dollopstan is a rather large republic (the approximate size of Belgium) bordered by ocean to the west and south.
Its rulers are chosen on a princedom-for-life-or-until-impeached basis. It numbers a little over a million people, as the latest census has shown.
You are one of the Princes of Power. What you are not, however, is actual nobles. These died during the transition. Yes, all of them.
A Prince of Power is a Dollopstani name for the owners of industry and, more often, land. These two bring money, after all, and money is what? Precisely.
To win the election you will need to persuade the Council to elect you, one way or another. Admittedly, it is the easiest way of gaining power, as republican tradition in Dollopstan is very strong. How to make the Council elect you? It is primarily the representative of the people's will and that is all I will tell. There are other ways, however. The sky is the limit, but watch the pitchforks.

Spoiler: Signup data (click to show/hide)

Name: We're going to need a full one, surname and all.
Gender: Holy shit, princes don't have to be male only CALL THE CONSTABULARY
Initial industry: In the markets of Dollopstan, everything sells, for better or worse. And what doesn't, goes abroad and gets sold in the end. Don't go overboard, there will be no refunds.
Region: A number from 1 to 15 will indicate your starting location.

Spoiler: Director's cut metainfo (click to show/hide)

What the Davy Jones' locker is this? Well, I'm sort of done with minimalistic games (the last one I abandoned since it was steadily spiralling out of minimalism, no moon for you) and what do I enjoy? Economics, pretty much. Never got to work in the field but I know a bit about it and this legitimizes me in making an economics game! Legit.
I'm putting a really optimistic cap on this as nine people. As per my other games, you will not get information on anything until it's needed to be mentioned or you actively look for it ICly. The above spoiler? What the average citizen knows. A bit of a stretch, but the magnate heir's name would be an innercity rumor so I'm fine with this.[
If you feel anything needs to be explained, PM me and I'll put it in the thread for you if it doesn't give people unfair advantages~ Or it does. Who knows this sorta shit?

[Toaster]

Name:  Glorious Attabar  (Yes, his first name is Glorious.  His parents had high hopes for him.)
Gender:  Male
Initial Industry:  Mining, Iron Ore
Region:  13

[Harry Baldman]

Name: A. A. Fenster
Gender: Male
Initial Industry: Insurance
Region: 7

[LordSlowpoke]

Initial Industry:  Mining  (How specific do you need?  Metals, if it matters.)

The level of abstraction is rather simple - I need your end product. Yours in this instance would be metal ore. It'll be plugged into things and made into a business that had semi-random highs and lows in the system for the generation period, though semi-random as it will be skewed in order to keep market balance at game start and balance business sizes when it happens. If you wanted precious metals, you'd have to specify that, though. Or a specific metal, but there's no use for that beyond naming as the system will take it in as metal ore anyway. Or is there? We'll see.

[Toaster]

Gotcha.  We'll go with iron ore (I'll edit) to make things sufficiently specific.

((I was tempted to say "cat mining" but that might be a bit silly)

[lawastooshort]

Hohoho, this will work well if region 8 has no coastline. Also, I wanted to put Industry: DEATH.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Name: Henrietta Pilkinton
Gender: Female
Initial Industry: Shipbuilding.
Region: 8

[Hapah]

Name:  Simon Keefe
Gender:  Male
Initial Industry:  Textiles
Region:  2

[GreatWyrmGold]

((1. A millithousand is one, so "POWER 9000 MILITHOUSAND" is equivalent to "POWER 9000".))

Spoiler: 2. (click to show/hide)

Name: Shara Breen
Gender: Female
Industry: Farming
Region: 3

Ms. Breen owns large amounts of the kingdom's most productive farmland. She is usually kind, but rather devious and conceited. She is convinced that the nation will be best-off if she is the ruler...and she's willing to do just about anything to get there.

[LordSlowpoke]

apparently writing whole chains of supply from scratch is tough

not for me though, i'm handwaving things all the way (example: you pay less for energy when producing coal in comparison to producing energy from coal since it's assumed you use some of it to generate your own energy, can't have it too easy)

and gwg i'm well aware of that

anyway you guys take your time, polishing my notebook's writings will take a while - i barely wrote down the land mechanics so before i get to generating you guys should be bored of waiting (weekend at the latest)

[GreatWyrmGold]

Well, I'd be willing to write out supply chains if you gave me example supplies/products.
For instance, a few closely-related items:

Spoiler: Example Chain (click to show/hide)

A. Coal (from D*; to C)
B. Ore (from D*; to C)
C. Metal (from A, B; to D)
D. Tools (from C; to A*, B*)

*"Soft" link--Supply wears out over time but does not need to be constantly input.

Just let me know how densely linked you want things.

[LordSlowpoke]

Well, I'd be willing to write out supply chains if you gave me example supplies/products.
For instance, a few closely-related items:

Spoiler: Example Chain (click to show/hide)

A. Coal (from D*; to C)
B. Ore (from D*; to C)
C. Metal (from A, B; to D)
D. Tools (from C; to A*, B*)

*"Soft" link--Supply wears out over time but does not need to be constantly input.

Just let me know how densely linked you want things.

thanks for the wish to get involved but i'm deriving a perverse pleasure from somehow calculating that a small ship would cost as much as ~3 square meters of land in a city center

if you want to help, tell me what you want to see as part of the "main framework"

oh man this system will be so fucking broken~

[GreatWyrmGold]

Um. One thing I'd like to see in the framework is some sort of balance.

If we're ignoring that, then ideally you would be thorough, instead. You need to buy at least some tools to keep mining. You need coal, fuel, and clay to make crucible steel (if I'm recalling what I saw on a TV show a year or two ago correctly). You need steel, tools, and more coal to make swords, along with a skilled smith. And of course all these industries need food!

[Toaster]

Given that La and I are in here, you should probably account for arson, nudity, and widespread vomiting.

[LordSlowpoke]

Given that La and I are in here, you should probably account for arson, nudity, and widespread vomiting.

let's see

clothes, check. grain spirits, check (though probably unnecessary), fire... hum. still grain spirits.

Um. One thing I'd like to see in the framework is some sort of balance.

If we're ignoring that, then ideally you would be thorough, instead. You need to buy at least some tools to keep mining. You need coal, fuel, and clay to make crucible steel (if I'm recalling what I saw on a TV show a year or two ago correctly). You need steel, tools, and more coal to make swords, along with a skilled smith. And of course all these industries need food!

i could copy the victoria 2 system on the weekend if it pleases you, but we'd have to stall the game even further if so

it's less fucked than anything i'm going to make with this number crunching anyway

[GreatWyrmGold]

Victoria 2?