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[ZebioLizard2]

I would love to have some towers or second floors at least, but I'm doing good without z-levels in general.

[scriver]

I would love having machine guns on the roof of my colony and baddabaddabadda

[LoSboccacc]

DF is a world simulator. 
RW is a colony RTS.

no? world simulation is the background where the gameplay happens, world simulation is not part of the gameplay itself. fortress mode is a colony sim with rpg elements.

[Screech9791]

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[Sanctume]

DF is a world simulator. 
RW is a colony RTS.

no? world simulation is the background where the gameplay happens, world simulation is not part of the gameplay itself. fortress mode is a colony sim with rpg elements.

In RW, you click on the pawn and click to a tile, move here.   
In DF, you select the squad/individual dwarf, click on a tile, move here.

Which one simulates a command to go here, and which one you hope it goes here?

[LoSboccacc]

that still doesn't make it a world simulator.

and you can move dwarf individually to their immolation, just because the ux for burrowing it is inconvenient it doesn't mean the option to send a dwarf wherever is not there....

[forsaken1111]

Also pawns in rimworld can and will ignore your orders if they hit a mental break while drafted or under a few other circumstances. I had one start losing his shit mid-combat because the combination of bad weather, pain from wounds and fighting in the dark made him so upset he decided to do a "sad wander", breaking out of the drafted state and dropping his weapon to wander around the battlefield

[Ultimuh]

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That's.. a lot of dead and/or dieing things.

[scriver]

One should also make a difference between what DF was back when it started the genre, compared to what it is now. Significant amounts of the world simulation are late additions to the game.

[Sanctume]

DF is an ongoing development.  From the many interviews I saw, Tarn wants to sim a world and put players there interacting with said world.

It is a part construction and management simulation and part roguelike game due to its multiple game modes.

[LoSboccacc]

exactly. players interact with the world, the game is not about stimulating worlds

sim earth is a world simulator, for reference. the world simulation aspect is the gameplay, not the scenery.

[Sergius]

Spoiler: When you're like me, trying to build a nice peaceful Zen garden, but then need the space to install your oil well and your nuclear cooling tower... (click to show/hide)

[scriver]

DF is an ongoing development.  From the many interviews I saw, Tarn wants to sim a world and put players there interacting with said world.

It is a part construction and management simulation and part roguelike game due to its multiple game modes.

Yes, but DF "created the genre" back when it wasn't what it is today.

[QuakeIV]

Dwarf fortress is absolutely simulating a world, what are you talking about...  The whole point of the game is interacting with the simulated world (albeit in a way that only recently became a big thing for fort mode).

[Lidku]

And Rimworld is the same in that regard, is it not? May I remind that DF wasn't a World Simulator until the update where world gen was "unfrozen", and that was only a little time ago. Before that it was very much a Colony Simulator (beside the Adv. Mode aspect) before everything beyond the Fortress did not react or change. From the get go with Rimworld it was a World Simulator since factions could do and react to stuff since the beginning.

Also not only that with the Storyteller AI system does essentially make it a World Simulationist game.