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[3man75]

What i meant with one is: If our Mercenaries are gone for more than a month they could have a higher chance of being killed or captured. If captured they'd be put up for ransom or death.

Also Bureaucrats? Were the goddamn prince , we can tell them to sign the form themselves or take a hike. Also i think maybe just taking over there caravans security and being payed for it is the better deal for now. It'd give us a reason to interact with the Knights and win a bit of support from them.

I still think we should win hearts and minds via the church as well as providing security. Remember in the even of a civil war, Having the High Priest mother and Father say "Hey, that's a good kids and you know what? I'm supporting him". Albeit the Father has modest forces to command and the mother has nothing it'd be a good way to run a propaganda campaign to be the golden boy. Fighting isn't the only thing about civil wars, image is important too.

4. Correct but if it happens too much than it would make them doubt our sincerity.

Also, i'm thinking of commissioning a picture of the Prince. Anyone know what he looks like?

By the way NOW is when i think visiting Sir Raymond lands (or his liege lords really) would be worth the longer trip back. But again ONLY when we're done with the escort.


We should also inquire Maleshka about the Knights of the Crown. Do they have their own forts or do they just serve with there hosting lords? Will she be joining them?

[Andres]

What i meant with one is: If our Mercenaries are gone for more than a month they could have a higher chance of being killed or captured. If captured they'd be put up for ransom or death.

This sounds pretty arbitrary. Sure if they were going through hostile lands or places where banditry was pretty heavy sure but going cross-country in and of itself shouldn't be very dangerous. Still, it would be prudent to make sure our mercenaries aren't loaned out for too long, or if they are we should be getting paid well and we should make sure the travel route is relatively safe.

Also Bureaucrats? Were the goddamn prince , we can tell them to sign the form themselves or take a hike. Also i think maybe just taking over there caravans security and being payed for it is the better deal for now. It'd give us a reason to interact with the Knights and win a bit of support from them.

Firstly, never underestimate bureaucrats. Secondly, we'd only be able to handwave away the bureaucracy if we were personally with the caravan. We have better things to do than play counter-bureaucrat all day. Thirdly, I was exaggerating a tad bit. Sure it might get that bad occasionally but for the most part it would probably just be a formality. The point was that it would be another obstacle to get over to reach our goals. As for the security shindig? +1.

I still think we should win hearts and minds via the church as well as providing security. Remember in the even of a civil war, Having the High Priest mother and Father say "Hey, that's a good kids and you know what? I'm supporting him". Albeit the Father has modest forces to command and the mother has nothing it'd be a good way to run a propaganda campaign to be the golden boy. Fighting isn't the only thing about civil wars, image is important too.

4. Correct but if it happens too much than it would make them doubt our sincerity.

You make an excellent point. We'll do the guard thing and also win favour with the churches, but especially the Father's since this is about the rule of law. That should be enough to make it seem that we're doing things in their best interest.

Also, i'm thinking of commissioning a picture of the Prince. Anyone know what he looks like?

By the way NOW is when i think visiting Sir Raymond lands (or his liege lords really) would be worth the longer trip back. But again ONLY when we're done with the escort.


We should also inquire Maleshka about the Knights of the Crown. Do they have their own forts or do they just serve with there hosting lords? Will she be joining them?

I'd say hold off on that commission for now. Maybe wait until he's older and has more defining features (scars, facial hair, distinctive clothes, etc.)

Yup. The plan is to escort them and then visit our uncle and Raymond. And we should avoid at all costs going to uncle's BEFORE we drop off Penrod.

The Maleshka thing. +1.

[3man75]

Eastern Part of the kingdom has a strong military presence but probally alot of Eastern raids and possibly skirmishes with the aldabertians over stuff.

Also Asgurth in particular is...bad. Here's what the OP's info has on it: Agsthur is a deeply poor province and a headache for those who would see Analysse remain a strong and powerful kingdom. The province crawls with petty outlaws and smugglers, and the lords who hold dominion are either too weak to oppose them or live off of coin reaped from crime. Here more than anywhere else in the kingdom old and disturbing religions involving spirits have resurfaced, and the populace have taken to offering these fickle gods sacrifice. Both of these things are encouraged by the most powerful man in the province, Duke Viris. Agsthur shares a border with the crown province, the archbisphoric of the holy sentinel, and the eastern territories of Gabrimor and Asthvis.

I do not want our guys in that region if we can help it. At all. Less they come back trying to eat our flesh as zombies or a witchs apprentice. We should also keep an eye on this place, it may hold the answer of where our fathers brother got his "Mysterious illness" from. An i don't think it's the brothel.

[Andres]

Dangerous county full of outlaws? Dangerous black magic? A possible plot hook? We are going to Asgurth! We win glory and fame for ourselves and the SMMC! We get loot in the form of weapons, armour, and whatever the outlaws stole via bandit hunting! We can suppress the evil religion that has taken root there and win favour with the church! We could possibly learn some non-black magic because there's so much magic there! We could pick up some very black magic that we can use if we really really have to. We can discover what happened to our brother and SAVE THE KINGDOM!

We do all this after we come back from the wedding trip and of course we go there ourselves with our bodyguards, retainers, and the SMMC. We should probably retainer the SMMC before we do so so that the Company's victories are more closely tied to ours.

[3man75]

Whoa whoa i'm acting on suspicious that the mysterous illness came from this place because black magic CAN do this. Necromancers/ Witches deal with poison right?

Also, i don't think that's allowed politically and the Duke in charge of that place will call daddy or have us assassinated. Although, maybe we can ask the High Priest Father about this province and if he's doing anything to battle the cultist elements. Maybe the Church of the Mother is trying to do something too, who knows. Questions when we get back for sure but we'll need a reason to start our witch hunts and we'll defiantly need a way to track criminals and cultist. Not just go by intuition.

If we have no one or no tools than no dice. We'll deal with it later.

[Andres]

Whoa whoa i'm acting on suspicious that the mysterous illness came from this place because black magic CAN do this. Necromancers/ Witches deal with poison right?

Well, our brother wasn't really ill. He tried unearthing some tomb or whatever and released an ultra powerful spirit that put him to sleep and killed a bunch of guards. Not sure what happened to the spirit. His jittering and paranoia is probably as a result of him being set up. Witches do deal in poison but necromancers would only use it to kill captives.

Also, i don't think that's allowed politically and the Duke in charge of that place will call daddy or have us assassinated. Although, maybe we can ask the High Priest Father about this province and if he's doing anything to battle the cultist elements. Maybe the Church of the Mother is trying to do something too, who knows. Questions when we get back for sure but we'll need a reason to start our witch hunts and we'll defiantly need a way to track criminals and cultist. Not just go by intuition.

If we have no one or no tools than no dice. We'll deal with it later.

Fair enough. Would've been fun though. Maybe we can send a messenger to ask the duke if we can go bandit-hunting in his lands? That doesn't have any downsides at least.

[3man75]

He'd by suspicious? Plus he likes the cultist actually.

Also i'm talking about our fathers brother, The last King. He died of a unknown illness. I quote: "Lorin "Lionhair" Casar, King of Analysse, former duke of the Gabrimor plain: Lorin is a 47 year old man who has been declining from his prime for about a decade, though he was once a champion jouster and swordsman. He was the second son of four children, and inherited the throne from his elder brother, who died from an unknown wasting illness under some suspicious circumstances after a half a decade of rule.". Lorin is our father but i'm not sure on HIS elder brothers name. Sorry if i wan't being clear  .

Also do you think we could get Maleshka to help our sisters with swordplay? It's just too cool to have a bad ass female knight as part of our retinue.

[Andres]

He'd by suspicous? PLus he likes the cultist actually.

I said bandit-hunting - not cultist-hunting. And so what if he might be suspicious? We either gain something or lose nothing from asking.

Also i'm talking about our fathers brother, The last King. He died of a unknown illness. I quote: "Lorin "Lionhair" Casar, King of Analysse, former duke of the Gabrimor plain: Lorin is a 47 year old man who has been declining from his prime for about a decade, though he was once a champion jouster and swordsman. He was the second son of four children, and inherited the throne from his elder brother, who died from an unknown wasting illness under some suspicious circumstances after a half a decade of rule.". Lorin is our father but i'm not sure on HIS elder brothers name. Sorry if i wan't being clear  .

Might be worth looking in to. We'd better keep this on the down low. It could just be that Lorin killed his brother for the throne and he'd be awfully upset if we started snooping around.

Also do you think we could get Maleshka to help our sisters with swordplay? It's just too cool to have a bad ass female knight as part of our retinue.

She's the daughter of the head of the Crown Knights. We ought to see if she has any skill to begin with and if I remember correctly our sisters didn't like it very much. They liked something else we did with them but I can't remember what.

[3man75]

Are you sure it wasn't swordplay? One of them seemed to like the grand melee...

Also i think it says somewhere that she's pretty good with a bow and has been trained by her father...She knows how to cut people i'm sure.

He'd by suspicous? PLus he likes the cultist actually.

I said bandit-hunting - not cultist-hunting. And so what if he might be suspicious? We either gain something or lose nothing from asking.

Wouldn't that put us in his turf? where he can tell his fellow lordlings (with criminal connections) to ambush us with super superior numbers and kill us? Or ransom us? Which if ransoming would happen, than we'd be the laughing stock of the kingdom. How would we prove anything that so many bandits just attacked with a little too much coordination?

EDIT: my quoting went bad...again.

[Andres]

She's good with a what-now? Well damn we have to get her on team Raynor now. She can be our Legolas.

Oh and while I was writing this post I remembered that we tried teaching swordplay to our older sister but she didn't like it. Then we introduced it to our younger sister and I think she may have liked it but she definitely had some natural talent for it. Imma go see if I can find the update.

EDIT: Damn it 3man75 her name is Malehsa not Maleshka!

[3man75]

Who's Legolas?

NVM, Ya if she can do what he could do than our battles will be done before they start. Also maybe we can get our brother to say: https://www.google.com/search?q=you+shall+not+pass&biw=1680&bih=925&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=uGYWVMXhF5OVyATEsIHYDA&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

When we defend a fort or city.


An could you link or quote that please? I'm about to go to bed 

[Andres]

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=131059.msg4668428#msg4668428
Catherine was interested in archery. Good night. I'll drudge up all the links and info I can.

EDIT:

You didn't know, but Catherine is apparently interested in taking archery lessons, and had intended to ask father to arrange it for her after the wedding.

Everything's better in proper quote form.

Also coming with you will be Sekhon's Daughter Vukhara, Knight Commander Geralds daughter Malehsa, the Mage Arialla, and a few of your more capable courtier allies.

Malehsa. Not Maleshka.

I can't find any evidence of us sword-fighting with our sisters. Maybe in the original Prince thread...

EDIT 2: I FOUND IT! It was all the way back in page 9 of this very thread. Actually there's quite a lot on that update that I would like to address.

Your scrying continues it's steady progress as ever, and it's possible you could begin to use it as a method of spying, and you are on the cusp of being able to use more than one sense at a time in your scrying.

First is that we were "on the cusp" of being able to scry with more than one sense since page 9. This is unacceptable. We MUST get past that milestone.

You continue to spend time with your family, and raise the possibility of playing at swordplay with Mary. She seems hesitant at the idea, but then Catherine expresses interest too, and Mary's hesitance turns to eagerness. Their nursemaids arn't too eager at the idea of the girls playing at something so rough, but you explain that you think noblewomen should know how to defend themselves, and win the servants over. You try to teach catherine some basic meditations and mental exercises to focus the mind, but that goes atrociously, and you predict difficulty in any future sessions. By contrast, Catherine picks up swordwork rather quickly, though both she and Mary tire easily.

Here we go. We brought it up with Mary. She didn't want to. Catherine said she wanted to so Mary joined in. They both get tired. Catherine is good at swordplay despite having focus problems. I think Mlamlah may have meant Mary wasn't good at focus seeing as she's younger and because of the use of 'By contrast' and then exemplifying Catherine's skill right after saying that she can't focus. I could be wrong though.

One girl three years your senior is the daughter to Gerald, the knight commander of the knights of the crown. Her father has taught her the basics of tactics and swordsmanship, and she's apparently a rather skilled archer.

Here we go. She's a good archer but her swordsmanship is merely basic. We may or may not be able to beat her in a fight.

TRIPLE EDIT: Malehsa can be Legolas, Catherine can be Aragorn...... we need a female axe user to complete our gender-bent LotR trio.

EDIT the Fourth: Happy 1 year and 3 days since the reboot of Prince!

[3man75]

1. About Catherines archery interest, maybe Malesha can teach her every now and again? She is a "rather skilled archer". It could help her be a better instructor and a bond between Catherine and Malesha. Who knows, maybe well have a brand new "sister"? Or she'll get a very high rank in the Crowns Knight which would secure us their support in a civil war.

3." You try to teach Catherine some basic meditations and mental exercises to focus the mind, but that goes atrociously, and you predict difficulty in any future sessions. By contrast, Catherine picks up swordwork rather quickly, though both she and Mary tire easily. "

How would catherine be a contrast to catherine? I think this is a typo BUT maybe it really is that the GM meant she's good at fighting but not focusing. Clarification GM[/u]?

4.Also, maybe we can form a partnership with Malesha? We both know basic tactics and could ask our tutor to set up a hypothetical scenario where we debate moves against/in union with each other. She might want to join the Knights of the Crown and be the first female Knight in Annalyse. If so, she'll need more practice to be the best and we could promise to support her from the palace if she attempts to gain entry and rank.

EXAMPLE: We say attack the center. She'd say Flank from both sides to hit the rear. Our tutor, Who's name i've forgotten will decide winners by his own judging.

He could also have us duel each other with focus on our form/stance. Plus it'd be nice if we spared/learn with someone our own skill class and not a monster like Barrick who could beat the #1 badass in the kingdom on a good day.

[Andres]

1. About Catherines archery interest, maybe Malesha can teach her every now and again? She is a "rather skilled archer". It could help her be a better instructor and a bond between Catherine and Malesha. Who knows, maybe well have a brand new "sister"? Or she'll get a very high rank in the Crowns Knight which would secure us their support in a civil war.

I agree with most of this. The idea that a woman would get a very high rank within the Crown Knights is pretty much impossible. Especially since it seems they're more traditional knights where they prize swordsmanship and jousting and stuff more than archery; her forte. Not to mention the fact that a woman becoming a knight is widely seen as an "abuse" of a law meant to allow female mages in the army. We could just get her a standard position in the Knights of the Crown when the time is right. Here's how: she becomes better at fighting, she proves herself somewhat on the field - maybe bandit hunting - to gain some recognition. All the while we keep her close to us so that she's a de facto bodyguard. When we're king we'll just knight her seeing as how we absolutely know she's earned it, and we could probably have Eric help on the other end seeing as how he's a Crown Knight as well. But even then, the people and ESPECIALLY the nobles would probably never accept it if she managed to obtain high station in the order. But... who knows, they might. We'll see.

4.Also, maybe we can form a partnership with Malesha? We both know basic tactics and could ask our tutor to set up a hypothetical scenario where we debate moves against/in union with each other. She might want to join the Knights of the Crown and be the first female Knight in Annalyse. If so, she'll need more practice to be the best and we could promise to support her from the palace if she attempts to gain entry and rank.

EXAMPLE: We say attack the center. She'd say Flank from both sides to hit the rear. Our tutor, Who's name i've forgotten will decide winners by his own judging.

He could also have us duel each other with focus on our form/stance. Plus it'd be nice if we spared/learn with someone our own skill class and not a monster like Barrick who could beat the #1 badass in the kingdom on a good day.

Firstly, we don't have a swordsmanship tutor. Our previous swords tutor was Barrick who wasn't really a professional teacher and the only proper tutor we had taught us battlefield tactics and strategy, and he's an old man who probably can't be coaxed into coming along the ride with us.
Secondly, we should only invite her in our training if our tutor thinks that our training would go along faster if she joined us.
Finally, I think we should perhaps have a sparring session with her just to determine how good we are in comparison to her.

[3man75]

An i think he was a swordsman tutor. He helped us with our form and he said he trained our father, who became an awesome tournament fighter, warrior, and General.

I think i miss communicated with having that tutor come, i was thinking when we come back and are training.

Yes to the practice spar to see her skill.


Also, i bet it won't be such a bad idea when she comes with us to Kelsha to whoop some revolutionary ass.

EDIT: All will be discussed on the trip, right now let's just talk to mom about managing our stuff, barrick about recruiting those city watch fellows (an maybe ask him about ideas on dealing with that adalbertian knight who wants him dead/trailed), and then let's talk to Sekhoms dauther/other kelshan about specifics an goals when they get to adalbert.