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[Jackboot]

Like the title says. When (if there was one) the moment when you had an epiphany that you were no longer a newb at dwarf fortress? Was it when you established a new fort and neatly and efficiently had an entire fort design down, twenty layers of ore dug out, three megaprojects completed, four forests cut down, and thousands of cats slaughtered before the first elf merchants could saunter up and complain about your lumber industry?

Disclaimer though: By 'not a newb anymore' this isn't a 'haw haw expert dwarf fortress player elite platinum edition' but rather 'I know enough to not flood my fortress probably and when I talk about the game to non DF players their eyes gloss over'

For me, I realized that I was no longer a newb when I was gushing boasting about a complicated pump/drainage/random luck system I set up to get passed a magma sea and greedily dig up the delicious candy to make candy socks for my King.

[DS]

For me it was a glacial fortress back in 40d. Despite using modded-in orcs, nothing had prevented me from building a self-sustaining palace of ice, heated from below with magma (providing liquid water in a freezing biome), becoming the mountainhome, and training a full military.

For the first time, no fun disasters had destroyed my fortress.

So, I created my own, and flooded whole sections of the fort with magma. It turns out that hollowed out ice chambers and molten rock interact in interesting and slightly unpredictable ways.

[neverdreamalone]

I still am...

[MightyPaladin]

when it became trivial to survive without some self-imposed challenge

[Drazinononda]

Probably the first time I accidentally did a zero-point embark and still managed not to lose any dwarves the first year.

[Meph]

After I started modding. Its hard to lose in a game, when you know the background mechanics behind it.

[KingBacon]

When I flooded my magma sea fort by digging up into an underground lake, then I realized that I had progressed to the point where I stopped being cautious.

Therefore, I was no longer a newb.

[flameaway]

Hmm. After reflecting, I've decided that this is the only comment I'm competent to make on this thread.

I still have yet to try adventurer mode yet.

I know just enough to be lethal to dwarves.  Like yesterday when I accidentally dump designated the bottom cart in a quantum mine cart stack.

It's really funny watching a dwarf get run over, and... well scattered, I guess you could say, by 35 mining carts loaded with water.

[callisto8413]

I felt good about many things. My first hospital.   My first barracks.  My first protective walls with drawbridges, traps, and fortified walkways for my squads to fire from.  My first grand underground hall with many engraved floors, gem windows, massive pillars, overlooking balconies, enough tables and chairs for a third of the fortress, many statues, weapon racks, armour stands, well made supports, and far above, many many many levels up a glass dome to let in the sunlight. 

But I really knew I was not longer a newb when I created my first outside bathhouse, with glass ceiling, statues, OH SO HARD TO MAKE soap, and a well over a running creek I dug out myself.   One of the walls even had a missing block to let in the fresh air.  I REALLY felt wonderful when the Dwarf's status showed that they were using it!  Clean Dwarfs!   

[flameaway]

Meph,

Do you have a good link for a beginning modder?

[Urist MacNoob]

I believe that I still am a noob.

Not that it was anything to do with my account name, but, er--

I don't think I'll be a noob any more if I can do the following:

If I can build a fortress-- Don't care where, and have a substantial surface city as well as an underground dwarven settlement, over 1,000 goblin kills with less than 200 inflicted by their attacks, have a pet dragon and gold/platinum/etc, perhaps obsidian and magma if it's a god of war, some kind of temple beneath the earth dedicated to some kind of god. Just to top that off.

I just want to feel like I've impacted the damn world I'm in, something that even the old grey-bearded grumblers of the mountain homes will take wonder at.

I have high expectations of myself.

[Mushroo]

The moment came for me when I figured out how to buy the entire first year dwarven caravan.

[WanderingKid]

I'm still a noob, but no longer a newb.  I realized that the first time I could answer more than 5 newb questions in a row without one of the elders coming by and explaining to me I was wrong and the wiki needed closer inspection.

That said, I'm still wrong about a lot of the details here and there.  Some from misunderstandings, some from simply reading something somewhere else and me taking it as gospel and not doing the science (or checking the thread 3 days later for confirmation by said elders). 

[_LoneWolf_]

It was after I got done building my first big project: the elephant dome

[JAFANZ]

I will consider myself no longer a newb when I can get to my 1st migration wave without (a) losing anyone, & (b) using a dorf speed cheat (even if it's for pre-savescum planning).