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[NullForceOmega]

W4stedspace did a video, wheels still seem buggy, but there have definitely been massive improvements in the rotors and pistons.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

W4stedspace did a video, wheels still seem buggy, but there have definitely been massive improvements in the rotors and pistons.

I didn't see his most recent one, but I think the wheels falling off were a result of there being some pasting from blueprint bug.  Given he was wildly swinging the rotor legs of his mech around and nothing screwed up at all, I'd say that rotors are fully fixed, at the very least.  Pistons seemed good as well.

Single Player initial (25:00 for Mech rotor madness)
Cross-Atlantic Multiplayer test

[Neonivek]

To be fair, I think the old version of the game should just be a branch accessible to everybody rather than something they charge extra for.

I am compelled about this claim that pistons and rotors are 'fixed'- just how fixed are they, this time?

Last time they claimed to fix them they got significantly worse, so I am skeptical.

Yeah that was totally fixed. They didn't want you to use them, so they made them worse

[Akura]

*huge images inbound*

Spoiler: I might have gotten a bit too ambitious here (click to show/hide)

That's the interior of a ship I have to fill, that I've been designing for weeks a little bit at a time. I have the overall structure mostly done, including a framework built from blast wall blocks. Also done is the missile bay, which fires some rather large guided missiles that have already been tested to working condition.

The design will be for a Survival-functional heavy battleship. Right now, from front to back is about 390 meters(1 large-grid block = 1.5m), and that screenshot is just inside the missile bay, 190m from the front of the ship.

It is intended to mount these:


A 50m-long gravity cannon, though I may have to cut that down if I plan to use them, as each is nearly half as long as the ship is wide, with a planned 16 guns(4 each side, top and bottom). The projectiles they fire are devastating, capable of punching through significant armor, while also fragmenting into several rods of blastwall inside the target, causing destruction if the target tries to maneuver with them inside. The reason for that is because of what might have been a re-work of collision physics, the impact hits with enough force to destroy all the other blocks on the projectile except the blastwall rods. Cutting down the cannon length might reduce the velocity(currently throws it with 16g's of force), though.

The tricky part is now to fill all that space. Much will be devoted to cargo, as those cannons and the missiles will take quite a bit of resources for ammo. The cannon slugs alone have 3 artificial mass blocks(27 gravity generator components!). I suppose if I have to cut down on the cannon length, I could reduce the size and artificial masses of the slugs. But anyway, a few spaces are already planned. The upper fore part of the ship, where many would expect to find the command bridge, is actually going to be the brig. The command bridge itself will be more towards the center of the ship, to best protect the most important part from attack.

Other features include an already-built small hangar with two support fighters and a utility shuttle.

[PTTG??]

Add a life-support hydroponics garden.

[Akura]

Rebuilt the cannon concept, it's a block less than half the length of the old design, and will fit quite well on the battleship's broadsides. Had to greatly increase the number of gravity generators within that space, in part due to the fact that the generators a located behind the shot(was in front), reducing the time the shot is in the gravity field, and in part due to an excess of gravity bleeding outside of the gun(also caused by the generators being pulled back) requiring me to play with reducing the field sizes for over an hour.

Also reduced the length of the shot by 3 blocks, including removing one of the three artificial masses(also part of why I needed more gravity generators). It's far less likely to leave any blastwall shrapnel inside the target now, but it's direct impact damage is at least as good as the old bullet.

[Akura]

Double-posting because fuck Keen. They decided to reduce the range of ship welders to only handle directly in front of it. This means that, unless whatever is on a projector is completely flat(two blocks thick at most if a welder is on both sides), you cannot effectively create anything from a projector. That ship I've been working on for at least two months? Can't use it anymore. Can't print the bullets for the cannon, can't print the guided missiles.

The worst part is that it is not mentioned in the patch notes anywhere.

[n9103]

I thought that's how they always were?
Retracting pistons to get around that.

[Sergius]

Double-posting because fuck Keen. They decided to reduce the range of ship welders to only handle directly in front of it. This means that, unless whatever is on a projector is completely flat(two blocks thick at most if a welder is on both sides), you cannot effectively create anything from a projector. That ship I've been working on for at least two months? Can't use it anymore. Can't print the bullets for the cannon, can't print the guided missiles.

The worst part is that it is not mentioned in the patch notes anywhere.

I could never use a ship welder on a projector effectively. I always ended up with unreachable blocks in the center, because it welds in whatever order doesn't leave floating blocks, and ignores blocks that are blocked by other blocks... ugh. At this point I don't think I'm ever going to use them again that way, except using mods, like that one that just autobuilds wherever.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Double-posting because fuck Keen. They decided to reduce the range of ship welders to only handle directly in front of it. This means that, unless whatever is on a projector is completely flat(two blocks thick at most if a welder is on both sides), you cannot effectively create anything from a projector. That ship I've been working on for at least two months? Can't use it anymore. Can't print the bullets for the cannon, can't print the guided missiles.

The worst part is that it is not mentioned in the patch notes anywhere.

Use the Nanobots mod, then.  As a bonus, it'll also fix your ship.

[BigD145]

There is also the shipyards mod. Uses lasers.

[PTTG??]

Double-posting because fuck Keen. They decided to reduce the range of ship welders to only handle directly in front of it. This means that, unless whatever is on a projector is completely flat(two blocks thick at most if a welder is on both sides), you cannot effectively create anything from a projector. That ship I've been working on for at least two months? Can't use it anymore. Can't print the bullets for the cannon, can't print the guided missiles.

The worst part is that it is not mentioned in the patch notes anywhere.

I could never use a ship welder on a projector effectively. I always ended up with unreachable blocks in the center, because it welds in whatever order doesn't leave floating blocks, and ignores blocks that are blocked by other blocks... ugh. At this point I don't think I'm ever going to use them again that way, except using mods, like that one that just autobuilds wherever.

I kind of like the idea that you have to build the hull with big industrial rigs, then go in with smaller ships or technicians and furbish the ship. It'd be better if you could automatically pull resources from nearby containers, though.

[Aseaheru]

 Dident they fix pistons, so 3d-printers dont implode asmuch?

[Akura]

I thought that's how they always were?

They weren't. Large-grid(not sure about small-grid) welders welded at least two blocks in front - one problem I had to work around was collision between the welder and the closer block - as well as one block on either side of the welder tips.

I kind of like the idea that you have to build the hull with big industrial rigs, then go in with smaller ships or technicians and furbish the ship. It'd be better if you could automatically pull resources from nearby containers, though.

Doesn't really help for missiles and such. It also took me days to get a missile design that could be printed and not crash into the welders and not be on a separate grid(as the ship in question will have a projector of itself for repairs).

[BigD145]

Repair bays became rather useless with this change, unless your ship is flat and two blocks high.