Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[Neonivek]

Oddly enough the apocalypse is actually beneficial...

[Absolute Niro]

Farms suck as soon as you can afford a new Grandmother upgrade. Its REALLY annoying, as even Clickers do better. 100 farms, producing 2000 CPS, and I have 8 million CPS.

Exactly, farms are pretty terrible. Most of the buildings become obsolete at higher CPS, though.

I'm now nearing 500 million CPS personally, and saving up for anything is starting to seem impossible. It takes a long time to get a single trillion, and I need 100 for the next upgrades. I'm trying to get 100 time machines and 200 cursors, currently at 67 and 180 respectively, is there any easy way to get there that I'm missing?

[Neonivek]

Want to know the trick Absolute Niro?

After a while your income is useless. Only Golden (And Granny) Cookies earn you money within any reasonable timespan.

[Graknorke]

But the red cookies make things worse...

[Bluerobin]

Except for the ones that make things waaaay better!

[Neonivek]

Except for the ones that make things waaaay better!

Exactly

There are TWO bad cookies
1) Halfs your cookie production = Why care? Why care at all?
2) Lowers your total cookies by 5% = You can earn 10% from the beneficial effects.

These are not common.

The "Bad things happen" is mostly just there to scare you... Truthfully you will want to piss off the grannies.

[Graknorke]

But I have only ever gotten the bad ones in at least 10 red cookies.

[Absolute Niro]

Want to know the trick Absolute Niro?

After a while your income is useless. Only Golden (And Granny) Cookies earn you money within any reasonable timespan.

Guess no more idling for me.

[Neonivek]

But I have only ever gotten the bad ones in at least 10 red cookies.

I almost never get the bad ones... and the best one increases your income by 666 for 6 seconds... (so up to 18 seconds). Which is 3.3 hours

[Graknorke]

But I have only ever gotten the bad ones in at least 10 red cookies.

I almost never get the bad ones... and the best one increases your income by 666 for 6 seconds... (so up to 18 seconds). Which is 3.3 hours

Do you have any black cats? Because I will buy all of them.

[lemon10]

28.99%: You lose 5% of current cookies, or 10 minutes worth of cookies, whichever is less, then plus 13.
28.99%: You gain 10% of current cookies, or 30 minutes worth of cookies, whichever is less, then plus 13, just like the effect of golden cookies.
28.99%: You gain the "Clot" debuff, which cuts your production in half for 66 seconds.
5.95%: You start a "Cookie Chain"
5.95%: You gain the "Elder Frenzy" buff, which grants you x666 production for 6 seconds.
1.125%: You gain the "Clicking Frenzy" buff, which grants times x77 clicking power for 13 seconds.

49.00417% to get "frenzy": Get 7x cookie production for 77 seconds. Affects both Cookies per Second, and Cookies per Click.
49.00417% to get "Lucky!": Get an instant boost of cookies equal to 10% of the current cookies plus 13, or 30 minutes worth of cookies plus 13, whichever is less.
1.6625% to get "Clicking Frenzy": Gives x77 cookies per click for 13 seconds. Only works for manual clicking.
0.32916% to start a "Chain Cookie"

From this its pretty clear that the red cookie is better, because although it only has a 12% chance of being really good, when it is it's amazing.

[Neonivek]

Not to mention how "Cookie Chain" works can REALLY fling you ahead.

[qwertyuiopas]

28.99% * -600s = -173.94s
28.99% * +1800s = +521.82s
28.99% * (-50% * 66s) = -9.5667s (-19.1334s with upgrade)
5.95% * 6s * 665 = +237.405s (+474.81s with upgrade)
5.95% * =

49.00417% * 1800s = +882.07506s
49.00417% * 6 * 77s = +226.3992654s (+452.7985308s with upgrade)

Therefore, golden cookies gain an average of 1108 (1334 with upgrade) seconds of progress with each click, and red cookies gain an average of 575 + x (803 + x with upgrade) seconds.

For the red cookies to be profitable, cookie chain must give an average of at least 8957 (8924 with upgrade) seconds of progress to be more profitable.

(These numbers ignore clicking frenzy, as it varies with click/autoclicker speed, and the recent -80% chance of getting the same result twice change, which may completely alter the results)

(Edit: Forgot to factor 5.95% chance into chain cookie result)

[WillowLuman]

Also, cookie production x666

[motorbitch]

no idea if im just incredible unlucky here, but red cookies dont seem to give normal frenzy anymore, and the chance for bad results seem grately increased.