Gosh. And I even gave two type of reasons:
Who cares about the last few days? I said why, time pressure and gosh, I think I found two Scum, what do the rest of you think? (what reaction do you two Scum-looking players have?)
How many scum in a known unknown game am I supposed to look for? How many questions am I supposed to ask, especially when for various reasons I feel like I've asked more than any and done great good with my questions? Sure, you're motivating. You and everyone are helping me get my motivation back (having more time doesn't hurt either). I'm SUPER DUPER interested in watching you all interact, by any chance with these many thousands of words, have I maybe said enough that it makes sense for me to listen some? I'm trying too, I think it makes sense!
There's a few problems with this. First of all, I'm not saying you were inactive. Au contraire, you were extremely active, by some standards. Which is why I am now wondering why you try to use these quotes to explain why you haven't done any questioning. You managed to get these posts out, yet I see nothing resembling an interrogation.
Now, that is easily explained by your belief of having found both scum. Which is astonishingly conceited, because there is no such thing as a confirmed role barring a flip or the claim of a confirmed cop. If I were to begin OMGUSing people on a badwagon because I'm drunk off wine, would you start thinking me scum? Most probably, but then you would have to consider that one of the other two guys is town.
You don't win by being sure of your choices, you win by questioning them. Surely, there is the possibility that whomever you're voting is just bad at the game, and the scum is just really good at posing as town? (Fun fact: I
am better at playing town-like as scum, as anybody who knows my meta could tell you.)
That being said, the most tedious part of this game is actually writing the posts. Or maybe parsing the stuff that's going on, I guess. I kinda just wing it while typing. Either way, what doesn't take a lot of time is asking questions. At this point, you would probably have to follow up on what has happened so far, but given how much thought you have clearly given to your reasons, it shouldn't be hard to ask people for their opinions or something. Or maybe somebody has said something that you didn't understand or you'd like them to elaborate on? TL;DR blaming lacking activity for lackign questions in the posts that you
domake is not a valid excuse.
Sniffle. I thought I did a lot more than reason. Doesn't the time ever come when the questions (from me) pause, the case is presented, and I who have questioned so much listens, listens, listens, and responds? Besides, I claim serious, massive, current school pressure; all that AND unforeseen work pressure too. You're doing good Imp, I says to me, yes you are. Thanks Imp, I reply.
You shouldn't expect any thanks from me. In fact I'm going to retroactively strike through those above
right now.
Also, no. As I said, you should always keep going. Right now, I'm considering the possibility that you might just be overly overconfident town.
Any other two people (I bet Rolepgeek is willing to be one of these, with the addendum that it's not that I'm not doing anything, it's that I'm not doing anything useful, that's his beef with me) want to agree with Darvi here? Come on, surely you want to. Call me lazy. Call me inactive. Tell me I'm not doing something, and furthermore that I've been inactive when I haven't said I needed to be or failed to return as promised after a 'reasonable' time gone.
Just nobody tell me I make posts that are too long. We're trying to only speak truths here, right?
Thanks for the tickle, Darvi. I am feeling more motivated. Can't confirm that you're a major reason why, yet. but you're part of it and I'm grateful.
Inactive? No. Lazy? Also no, but you put too much effort into explaining yourself and not enough investigating.
Too long? Again, no. Sometimes you just need that much to get your points all across. But good formatting does wonders, which you've just proven.
And then what? You find the two who you think are really likely Scum, no you're not sure sure sure sure sure about both but wow, your newbie Scum senses are all atingle and you've done the best you think you can to show your evidence - and you present to everyone and people talk and stuff - so obviously you keep watching and talking but what -else- do you do?
What's that next step besides stay involved and let people think when not answering them and watching everything and questioning yourself to make sure you still think you have solved the puzzle?
The next step is waiting for the day to end and watch if all that work has paid off. Chances are, it hasn't, but what do you expect in a game where newbtown is prone to just as many fuckups as newbscum.
But so far, that's literally all there is to it. Sure, you can stop asking questions at some point when people are busy discussing other stuff, but when all you're doing is justifying your own votes and complain about the lack of activity it's fairly obvious that that point hasn't been reached yet.
Though, this is BM, where the Scum can 'suffer' though some pretty awesome training in the 'safety of the Scumchat' with their very own and sometimes very awesome Scum IC, and might then come back to play with a whole bunch of flaws suddenly gone, though yep they are still Scum cause that's not what changed.
But this is alright, right? Because unless the 'bait and switch' of thought process and writing content happens pretty darn subtly, why then 'a sudden vast improvement that seems unlikely considering the prior days' postings... good answers replacing 'recent, highly different and denser play' in a BM is a likely Scum tell and is a good reason to stay suspicious of a 'wow, what changed in your thinking, you are now GREAT!' kinda way?
Scum doesn't get awesome training, not much more than you do, at least. Their IC isn't telling them exactly what to do, only how they should do it, and what pitfalls they should avoid. Pretty much what I'm trying to do here too, except applicabe to scum.
But yeah, their IC will probably point out that something is a bad idea and then they will stop doing it. Or maybe they figured as much from your vote on their own. Either way, if they start acting like actual town, that means they will start acting in town's favour, which obviously is against their own favour. In the long run, they will most likely encounter a conflict of interest (such as having to bus their own teammate, or not being able to lynch somebody they really want dead - wasting a perfectly good opportunity to kill somebody). This, naturally, is a good thing, except for those odd cases where scum is either so good or town is bad enough that they win anyway. Which is why you want to keep them engaged as to give them more opportunities to slip.
Meh. I work darn hard for my finds and then I give them to everyone and I listen and I think and I debate and and I want to win so bad. I'm probably wrong on some things, I'll call it a miracle if I'm right on even 80%. But I found a TON of evidence Even if it's all junk it sure looks convincing to me and I worked my neurons off for a lot of it. While working a 40 hour workweek and taking organic chemistry AND during a week that included first exam as well as some surprise extra super time consuming stuff at work. And I'm trying to play in a way that's not harmful to the game or any of the players in it, or likely to give anyone that bad burned feeling of 'wow, that game sucks' even if they probably have trouble not feeling that way because of triggers and really wanting to win and feeling blocked.
Just keep teaching best you can, and me too please, between whatever tickles you feel are necessary? That's all I'll ask for. Oh, I may have more and better questions for you soon too. Just not tonight, I'm tired and already tried to do a lot for my Town today.
I'll be waiting.
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