@Imp, Frankly, Looking at Mr Zero's question, He was attacking me for one of my answer's, which was a response to all the questions asked at the beginning of the game. Which were mostly, How come you play mafia?, How did you do last game? And other questions such as that. I personally believe those to be useless, and as you can see, I am participating within the question asking. However, I'm not asking questions, that you ask, such as "What would you do if X?". Throughout my time playing mafia, I have not found it particularly useful. I believe the first half of the question to be Meta, which would bias people wrongly, especially if they were actually mafia last game. No matter how hard it is not to be biased, they would be. That's why I try to ignore all posts that ask those questions.
The second half of the questions I'm talking about... Well I'm not sure what the use is. If you could, could you please fill me in as of why you think asking these questions are useful.
For MrZero's Question's. Some of the questions sounded like prompts, telling me to go out and answer the questions, and Frankly, I'm pretty sure before that post, I did answer any and all questions I saw directly to me. If I did not, I probably just missed them, or read over them.
I am pretty sure I was not in a defensive stance, so I ignored that. Most of MrZero's question's were leading question's, designed to make you look scummy. He wrote the defensive stance, so when everyone else looks at what I have written thus far, they would automatically assume I'm in a defensive stance.
"Why haven't you asked a single question?" I have now, But back then, there was no question for me to ask, as there was nothing for me to go off of. Most of you guys were asking questions based off of previous games, and as you read above, I don't.
I stated that. (Not sure how to link, but you guys can go down and click the link in Imp's quote) because it is basically the 2 options open to us. First is NL for today and tomorrow, Second is RL today, and if we do get a mafia. Great, if not, we killed someone that may have been important.
There are pro's and con's to both sides.
First of all. If we Mis lynch the RL, then the same amount of townies die. two.
The pro, however, to NL, is that we get 2 days/nights to discuss, untill d3, where it becomes Lylo. We will be able to see mafia's reaction to what is discussed in the day, and who they kill. Giving us more to go off of. Also, the cop may get a mafia, and then it makes it a lot easier.
The con is that there is no chance that a mafia will die, as it will be the mafia killing for both.
The pro to the RL, the mafia kill, would be that we will get a chance to kill mafia, however small that is.
The con is that we get less time for everything, meaning that the cop only gets 1 night (assuming there is a cop) and we only get one night to scum hunt.
Personally, because I think the chance of actually killing the mafia is quite small, I would prefer two NL's. However, if there was something drastic happen, in the next several of hours, a RL may be what we need.
Speaking of that.
Extend more!I believe if you guys think I still have not answered kleril's question, I'm not sure how to further answer it.
For my contradictions. I mean that every single forum has different norms for playing Mafia. I've never played on a forum where massive amount of question is the norm. To everyone. And so, I'm saying I'm not used to this style of mafia. On this forum. I'm quite used to mafia itself, however.
I also mean that I have never played this setup, and the jailkeeper is very different from the doctor, and will make a lot of what I do in other games hard to impossible. Such as cop outing, the doc protect. In this said mafia game, Cop outing is... Bad. Unless scum of course.
My suggestions, are what I believe should be done today, which was what you asked me, was it not?
Why should I not say strategies, that I think we should follow. I'm not just taking strategies from other mafia games I've played, I don't just randomly throw them out there. I did think about them, and decide which ones pertain to this game, and how I could make them better for this game.
Is that wrong?
For the NL. I don't think I really agree with whoever wrote that. D1's info never goes away. It's always there. Whenever you choose to use it, it's always there. It's just that, on D3, You also get D2's and D3's info to lynch on Lylo, While if you RL today, you get only D1's and D2's information to lynch on lylo. I believe having 3 days of information makes it better to get a read on someone, Seeing whether it is correct or not to lynch them.
Also, How is RL (and may I say, most likely mislynching) any better than NLing. So killing your own townie for the mafia>Mafia killing townie?
I gave you the pros and con's, as I see, ^ there. Right now, I believe NLing outweighs RLing.
Ok.
So you've never played a mafia game before?
Or at least this one.
So, please answer the question, What do you think we should do today?
Frankly, I feel like you guys think I am scum, purely on the fact that I play this differently from you guys, And you guys have never seen it played another way.
Let me give you an example. On another forum, Sometime ago (about a month) I was playing a mafia game. In the game, I was mafia... The setup, IMO, was horrendous, 9/2, Meaning, that townies got 2 Mislynches. There were also both doctor and cop inside the town.
Me, and one of the townies suggested Cop to out, especially on day 2, then have doc protect. I did the math, there was absolutely no way for the town to lose if the cop outted, unless, Cop died n1, doc died n2, or something horrible like that. However, of course, the town did not take the suggestion, and lost. During all this time, the Killed the other townie who suggested it, purely because he suggested it. Believing him to be scum, and trying to get the cop out in the open. In fact, it was a valid strategy, and a much better one than the town was using, because it gave you for sure's. Like X is For sure not scum, so ignore him, no matter how scummy he seems.
Frankly, the Town played badly, and people weren't very active. (another reason I won) However, people killed just because what someone suggested was foreign to them.
Take ^ how you want. I'm pleading for my case, because the two most active people in this game is after me, and I'm not mafia.
@MrZero
Yes pointing fingers is part of the mafia game, no pointing fingers without evidence is NOT part of the mafia game.
Where have I attached myself to the findings of others? The only spot you can say this, is where someone called you out on your first post, and I called you out on it myself, sometime later. I do believe that was scummy, and ...?
Yes, I don't have as much suspicion. But enlighten me, Why don't you want to tell me who you FOS, who you think is Town? That does not hurt anyone. And it give people much more insight, IMO, than the question you guys are asking. That is how I hunt scum, and you just refused to answer my question.