I have realized something. I messed up about how many extend votes were needed, but that doesn't actually change that bsnott is proven to be Town.
0 to extend, 2 needed
Only two extends are needed to extend at this point, if no one shortens. I made a mistake in understanding what I read when I believed we needed 3 extend votes to get an extension.
I'm first going to explain how I made the mistake, because deciding if I believed me would be crucial for me to decide if it was believable, if someone else had made this claim.
The Mod post opening Lylo did not include a vote list or a shorten/lengthen count. The first extend list shown this day
The robots awoke to a sad sight. Superblackcat's body was torn apart. A mass of wires protruded from his shell. This must be the work of evil mal-bots!
ZOM-B scans his remains. Turns out he was a janitor robot. The robots are more sad because now they have to clean up after themselves and robots aren't very good at that.
Everyone strengthens their resolve. They are determined to eliminate the threat.
superblackcat has been lynched! He was a town jailkeeper
bsnott has replaced Mr.Zero
Day 3 will end Friday November 1st at 9PM PST
As of right now, there are NO MOD EDITS on this post (which are allowed, only mods are allowed to edit their posts). This is proof that the day opened without a count at 0 status showing we needed 2 to extend.
1 to extend, 2 needed
When the mod first made a post showing the count, Rolepgeek had already asked for an extend. I saw this as we have one, needed 2 more. That's not what it said. What I mostly noticed was that there was no shorten count. I asked about that
here. The mod edited his post two minutes after that question, to put the shorten count in.
(bsnott, that's why we can't edit our own posts, they are a permanent record of things - however the mod IS allowed to edit. If you ever need to fix something or add something, you make a second post saying what you're doing and do it there. If anyone gets confused and tries to use the old wrong post, you notice and point out the correction.)
When I looked today and saw Tiruin's request for an extend, I also scanned back and noticed the number needed to extend had shrunk from three to two. Then I realized that I was wrong about that.
For anyone saying 'Imp, you've been looking at this all game and you have to know by now how to read it' - and that's what I would first challenge - I say 'But I haven't seen it all game.' The style of counts for extends and shortens has changed during play. It started the way it is now - but when Tiruin started doing mod posts on D2, Zombie adopted her method of extend counts for the rest of that D.
Extend - 0/3
Shorten - 0/4
I have shown earlier in play that I'm a detail orientated player who misses little - I've caught mistakes and asked for their corrections, and I usually see things and understand them correctly. It's hard to believe me because of this, but I am also a player who really, really needs consistency in rules. I've talked about that before this post too.
So that's my proof that I didn't 'set this up' - but even if I did use it as an intentional gambit (which I have to say, now that I've thought it through - I would have used it on purpose to test bsnott, because he didn't lock in a Scum win like Scum should have, instead he acted very reasonably and believably as a newbie might) I reason that bsnott is proven to be Town - all that matters is that he took action to prevent a certain Scum win when he could have taken action or inaction to create a Scum victory.
If he and I are both Scum, that's great motive for me to try and prove him Town - but a total waste of time if true. This is how the game would have ended last night, if I and bsnott were both Scum - and it would have been a locked down win.
Shorten votes cancel out extend votes, 1 for 1 basis.
We had 90 minutes to end of game. I remove my extend request (total now 1) - or even switch it to shorten (total now 0). Completely preventing any chance for an extend. bsnott and I both vote for any Town. Squill logs in - the best he could do is say 'extend', but a shorten from either bsnott or myself cancels it. Game ends without extend passing - with at best 2 scum votes on any 1 townie, and Squill adding his vote to rolepgeek's - a tie. Scum victory. If Squill didn't vote, mislynch and Scum victory.
This does not prove that I a not Scum - but it is proof that bsnott and I together cannot be Scum.
Even though I was wrong about how many we needed to extend - bsnott still is confirmed Town to me, and he did it with that extend request. He could have said 'shorten', removing the second needed extend vote to pass. He could have left his vote on me or not - Scum victory either way. He did what he did -before- Squill posted. bsnott's actions are incompatible with achieving a Scum win at the point in time where that victory was possible - bsnott is not Scum.
In fact, because of bsnott's extend votes - we now had a total of 3 extend votes, but only needed 2. If Squill is Scum, come to be around at the end of D, to vote shorten to knock us from 2 votes to 1 and let the day end (that would have been a Scum victory, no matter how Squill voted - or if Rolepgeek is Scum too and bsnott joined me in that vote, then Squill votes for me, returning to the tie and Scum victory) - well even then the day would have extended, so there's no reason to vote to shorten, no reason to prove Squill is Scum.
This doesn't prove Squill is Scum. But it further supports that bsnott is confirmed Town and explains why no shorten shenanigans were seen.
I'ma add - I view any attempt to use a shorten vote at this point to be proof of Scummitude, until we 5 or as many of that 5 as are willing to talk have had time to catch up, get satisfied, and get at least 3 of us to agree that it's time to shorten because votes are in all the right places to give Town the best chance its got. And I'll add my
extend too.