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PatriotSaint

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Dorfy Table Manners
« on: August 29, 2013, 01:01:06 pm »

Strange that I just thought of it, but it seems that dorfs eat stew and various with their bare hands.

Oh, and my adventurers are perfectly savvy with raw bloody meat that I just slaughtered brutally.

It seems civilization is more like a World of Gollums then, well, civilization.

Who the hell needs silverware when you have hands? This is Armokland, Dorothy. Go home, you're drunk by now!
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Re: Dorfy Table Manners
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2013, 01:13:42 pm »

I've always though that when dwarves store food in barrels, they liquidize it.

Then they just unstopper when hungry and drink.
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Re: Dorfy Table Manners
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2013, 09:03:32 am »

It's all in the abstraction layer.  As you know, every non-military NPC has some kind of kitchen knife.  The spoons are assumed.  Anything can be eaten with a knife and a spoon.

ANYTHING.

I like to imagine that the wood crafters have plenty of spare material lying about to make a number of spoons that, in practice, is inexhaustible after crafting one wooden figurine out of the same sized tile that could just as easily have made an enormous spiked ball, or an invasion proof wall.
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Re: Dorfy Table Manners
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2013, 02:55:10 pm »

Dwarfs have prehensile sentient beards that preform all tasks.

The actual meaty bits of the dwarfs are a separate symbiotic organism, about as smart as a dog.

It's kind of a master/blaster thing.
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Re: Dorfy Table Manners
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2013, 04:28:43 pm »

Anything can be eaten with a knife and a spoon.
The knife is optional, really.
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Re: Dorfy Table Manners
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2013, 12:14:38 am »

Anything can be eaten with a knife and a spoon.
The knife is optional, really.
so is the spoon.

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Re: Dorfy Table Manners
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2013, 04:40:05 pm »

I read in real life using a fork was thought of as unmanly and immoral in northern Europe for a while.
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Re: Dorfy Table Manners
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2013, 10:41:39 am »

I read in real life using a fork was thought of as unmanly and immoral in northern Europe for a while.

"God in his wisdom has provided man with natural forks - his fingers. Therefore it is an insult to Him to substitute artificial metallic forks for them when eating."

Serving forks have been around for a long time (examples to 2000 BC), but the use of "table forks" is far more recent.  While the Middle East had them by the 10th century, they were not popular in Italy until the 14th century, and not common until perhaps 1600.  Other areas of Europe were even slower to adopt them, moving gradually into Western and then Northern Europe. 

For a game that is largely based on European technology prior to 1400, forks are technically valid, but not likely to be common.  See "A History of the Table Fork" for some relevant research and discussion. 

My general take is that minor "pocket" items are certainly below the story-telling resolution of DF, and even larger non-weapon tools probably are.  Simply carrying a small knife, spoon, and bit of cloth around with you is not particularly difficult or unusual in relevant settings (backpacking, SCA or other historical re-creation events, etc.), and covers most needs at a lower tech level. 
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Re: Dorfy Table Manners
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2013, 07:48:01 pm »

agreed. imagine "Urist cancels eat, could not find eating utensil"

that would drive me insane.
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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2013, 08:25:46 pm »

Well, my dwarves tend to be very non-visual when eating. The only bad food related thought I've seen is them complaining of starvation (which may or may not involve there being food). The only real Dwarf table manners I've noticed is no throwing food at other Dwarves.
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Re: Dorfy Table Manners
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2013, 04:52:52 pm »

agreed. imagine "Urist cancels eat, could not find eating utensil"

that would drive me insane.

Surely you could handle this with a simple thought, along the lines of "Was forced to eat like an elf recently."
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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2013, 06:16:29 pm »

how strong of an unhappy thought is that?
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Re: Dorfy Table Manners
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2013, 09:20:08 pm »

I'm a little surprised dwarves bother to take their food to a table at all, when one is available to dine at. Considering they tend to "go get a drink" by just heading to the booze pantry and drinking straight out of the barrel. I guess mugs are a human thing.
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Re: Dorfy Table Manners
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2013, 09:13:21 am »

TABLE manners you say?
You give those hairy little drunkards tables?
You spoil them! Next you are going to say that you give your dorfs "clothing" and don't make them sleep in the mud like any proper and decent dorf would do.

I just imagine that they stuff the =Crundle tallow stew= in their beard and slowly absorb it during the few following months. Kind of like how I imagine they dunk their beard in the booze barrel and use it to absorb the required amount of dorffuel directly from the barrel
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Re: Dorfy Table Manners
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2013, 04:44:23 pm »

how strong of an unhappy thought is that?
I know it's a bad thought, but if my dwarfs are starving then they're already miserable for other reasons.
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