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[Ukrainian Ranger]

Common, were are mad science?

11. Develop lighter breastplates using Auftriebium boosted alloys
12. Develop bullet proof horse armor using the same alloys
13. Develop Flanteium  hand grandes to be carried by cavalry
14. Develop drugs that will make horses stronger
Who needs tanks when we can have an epic cavalry?

E. Invest in horse breading facilities , try to create new, stronger horses

[Taricus]

((Because you can't leave the foes as a red smear on the ground by running over someone with a horse. Not to mention said mad science has to be effective as well.))

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Cavalry can be very effective if we play our cards right and make several rounds of right upgrades

[Taricus]

No amount of updates will save us from artillery though

[Ukrainian Ranger]

No one said that we should use only cavalry, but turning cavalry in light tanks is a viable way to develop

Besides horse is a quite small target comparing to a tank

[Funk]

walkers are fine as you can get round the square-cube law at a cost in unobtanium.
And in the case of walkers vs tanks a cost in armor and guns in exchange for speed compared to a tank of the same size.
Your air ships willl be with use Helium for safety. 

[Rolepgeek]

Wait, walkers are faster than tanks?

I call bullshit. More maneuverable, able to go on more terrain, yes. Faster? No.

Anyway. I'm still considering. I'd like to get some heavily armored infantry, preferably with something t make them jump/jet-pack a long ways, and armored enough that they can get into melee and start ripping people into small pieces.

[Taricus]

Eh, I'd veto melee. If hey can tear people up in close quarters with super strength, then they can use it to heft in larger guns instead. MUCH more efficient. And horses are also a much softer target Ukrainian, a machine gun would likely chew through them regardless, and I wouldn't want to be the poor bastard that uses those grenades you suggest, the blast radius probably has the user in it after it's thrown

[10ebbor10]

Your air ships willl be with use Helium for safety.

We have helium,]? Because IIRC, the US(and world supplies) for helium were sufficient for only 1 single airship at this point in time. And for the next decade, that'll probably remain the case.

Eh, I'd veto melee. If hey can tear people up in close quarters with super strength, then they can use it to heft in larger guns instead. MUCH more efficient. And horses are also a much softer target Ukrainian, a machine gun would likely chew through them regardless, and I wouldn't want to be the poor bastard that uses those grenades you suggest, the blast radius probably has the user in it after it's thrown

Also, alenium is basically super nitroglycerin. Increased blast, and increased volatility. There's a not insignificant change the grenades 'll have exploded before being thrown.

[ICBM pilot]

what kinds of trees do we have access to

[Aseaheru]

Im for airships. Afterall, we can just float over lines if we felt like it.

So yes, After makeing that first airship make one that can carry three Hotchkisses in a v format as well as twenty troops.
also get working of paper-case bombs.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Yes, there are such things and they are possible.

The bombs are #99999
Airship is #99998

Why those? So i dont get confused.



Design for the cabin part of the airship:

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        /---\
    /--------------]=====[----\
   /-------/(Mostly stores)]=====[     \---]
  +        |_______________|__#__|         |--\
  +        |_______________      |  Bridge }===
  +        |               |__#__|/officers|--/
   \-------\cabins+stores  ]=====[     /---]
 ^          \--------------]=====[----/
 | Cargo+more storage       \---/
                        Gun emplacement/axcess
Armor is whatever we make the hull out of, the +'s at the back are rear loading doors. Power would be four lightweight engens in pods along the sides of the envelope. The bit I have drawn here is perhaps 45 meters long,10 wide. pods would be 5 or meters long, two or three wide. The whole thing should be no greater than 33 meters wide or 99 long.

[10ebbor10]

Do note, that as resilient as an airship might be, it's not going to survive an encounter with enemy anti aircraft artillery. (Note: It's going to survive, but not enough of it to ever fly again.)

Another note. Please number suggestions.

Spoiler: Suggestion list (click to show/hide)

1. Airship prototype. Small capsule, floating on hydrogen balloon. Single engine. Unarmed, 200 kg carrying capacity
2. Basic landmine. A simple, anti vehicle mine.
3.small fast boat for attacking lightly armored boats and coastal factories
4.500kg torpedo designed to destroy propellers on ships
5.diesel engine
6.15mm machine gun
6) Start designing a light tank chassis. A basic, rather simple design would work best, as we do need to update our forces with new equipment.
7) Start designing a new fixed single wing, enclosed cockpit fighter craft. Armaments for the craft are unnessesary at this stage, as the designers should just get used to understanding basic aeronautics for future projects.
Start trying to refine a new fuel out of the unobtainium, one with greater efficiency than most other fuels available to us at this time.
9) Update the lebels by redeisgning them to have larger sights, replacing the tubular magazine with a standard rifle magazine that can be fed via stripper clips
10. Begin experiments with small gunpowder rockets.
11. Develop lighter breastplates using Auftriebium boosted alloys
12. Develop bullet proof horse armor using the same alloys
13. Develop Flanteium  hand grandes to be carried by cavalry
14. Develop drugs that will make horses stronger
15. After makeing that first airship make one that can carry three Hotchkisses in a v format as well as twenty troops.
also get working of paper-case bombs.

Spoiler: Production list (click to show/hide)

A) Start building trucks to motorize atleast an entire division. Faster than horses, these sould dramatically improve the mobility of our forces.
B) Start to increase the mining capacity of the unobtainium mines, the more material we get from there, the better.
C) Start improving our industrial capacity. Every factory, regardless of the goods it produces, stregthens the economy. And with that economy behind us, we can afford to start outproducing our rivals.
D) Start building up infrastructure in vital areas. The more we can move through those areas, the more efficient our production will be.
E). Invest in horse breading facilities , try to create new, stronger horses

Spoiler: My Opinions (click to show/hide)

1. Own suggestion is best suggestion
2. Own suggestion is mediocre suggestion
3. Can be deadly efficient, can be useless
4. Capital ship disabler. Haven't seen any yet, but then again, we know nothing about the enemy
5. Seems good
6. Good
6) Tanks are good
7) A bit advanced, but needed in the near future
Can be interesting. Will probably be volatile
9) Seems good
10. Own suggestion is good suggestion
11. Seems like a waste of material. It won't spare us much weight and supplies are limited. Do note that while it reduces the thing's weight, it does not decrease the mass as much.
12. Even more of a waste of material. Bulletproof armor is fairly hard to make. The weight vs mass problem plays much more here.
13. Seems like another way to get the cavalry to blow themselves up.
14. Good guys don't do drugs.
15. Seems problematic. The firing of cannons will require the structure to be reinforced, and this appears to be a low altitude craft. Meaning it's very likely to be shredded by anti aircraft fire.

((I think it's clear I don't like cavalery))

[Aseaheru]

If it can go high enough it wont need to survive getting hit. But I do see what you mean.

[Dorsidwarf]

Airships are actually pretty tough to shoot down from the ground, unless they are very low. The winds at high altitudes can easily deviate anti-air projectiles by several miles. The purpose of AA is less to snipe the planes out of the sky, but to fill the air with clouds of shrapnel to tear oncoming aircraft to bits.


Plus, I agree with rolepgeek. Tanks are actually fairly fast - even the heavily armoured ones can cover ground at speeds in excess of 20 mph, and most medium to lights were capable of reaching 30 or 40 at top speed.

[Aseaheru]

And then you had armored cars during WWII going 80MPH in battle.
Well, simulated battle. They went too fast for the brass.