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Author Topic: What do you think about this? (medicine/technology/human body)  (Read 4740 times)

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Re: What do you think about this? (medicine/technology/human body)
« Reply #45 on: August 27, 2013, 04:39:52 am »

LordBucket is arguing against mandatory Human Upgrading. Or just mentioning the dangers of voluntary human upgrading.

However, this implants changed me is the major benefit of the 3d printed organs. They're made of your own cells, and the parts that aren't are slowly replaced by your body, so changes are minimal. It's a brand new organ, so any reactions it "learned" (addictions, but also some resistances to diseases) would be lost, however.
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Re: What do you think about this? (medicine/technology/human body)
« Reply #47 on: August 27, 2013, 08:01:34 pm »

LordBucket is arguing against mandatory Human Upgrading. Or just mentioning the dangers of voluntary human upgrading.

However, this implants changed me is the major benefit of the 3d printed organs. They're made of your own cells, and the parts that aren't are slowly replaced by your body, so changes are minimal. It's a brand new organ, so any reactions it "learned" (addictions, but also some resistances to diseases) would be lost, however.
Indeed.  To me, it's no weirder than losing two-thirds of your liver and having it regrow itself from the remains.  It's just that the organ in question is regrowing outside of the body rather than inside. 
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Actually, thinking about it now, liver regeneration is a little weird.  Interesting, but weird. 
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Re: What do you think about this? (medicine/technology/human body)
« Reply #48 on: August 27, 2013, 08:21:06 pm »

Anyone know WHY the liver's so regenerative?

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Re: What do you think about this? (medicine/technology/human body)
« Reply #49 on: August 27, 2013, 08:23:50 pm »

Because it is a gland, and glands can regenerate so long as they have sufficient bloodflow.
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Re: What do you think about this? (medicine/technology/human body)
« Reply #50 on: August 28, 2013, 02:57:48 pm »

Fun article of the day.
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/mini-human-brains-grown-stem-cells-8C11020764
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Researchers grew human stem cells in an environment that encouraged them to form pea-size gobs of brain tissue, which developed into distinct brain tissues, including a cerebral cortex and retina.
See, now that's about where people start feeling uncomfortable about things. :P
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« Reply #51 on: August 28, 2013, 11:25:39 pm »

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Re: What do you think about this? (medicine/technology/human body)
« Reply #52 on: August 28, 2013, 11:48:43 pm »

Although I pretty significantly disagree with LordBucket on some level (I'm just not sure whether we have different notions of "self", or different notions on what contributes to it), I'm pretty okay with letting him have that viewpoint, provided he's not saying that even people who don't share it shouldn't be allowed to receive such transplants. It doesn't seem like he is, so I don't see what the fuss is about.
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