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[Cattani]

Can't we do the hardcore mission full-stealth mode? Assign Splintercog to it, and give him radio support from the zeppelin (so the tracker can't get to our base).
Also I was thinking the sound emitters where for radars.

[Gamerlord]

Full stealth would be risky... We might lose Splintercog and if it failed then we would completely lose the element of surprise.

[Imp]

Don't overwhelm your mind Imp; we need it to think for us.

Fear not, I'm extremely interested in this game.  Just my available energy to fact hunt, verify, be highly factually logical, to concentrate for hours on end on the smallest details, between my work and my new love of the game Mafia, that sort of mental muscles are a wee bit strained atm.

What is untouched and otherwise languishing is my love for fantasy, my imagination, my sense of freedom and escape, and other related things.... all of which find refuge and expression here, lucky parts of me .  I'm not going anywhere.... I'm just not at my best at the moment.

Okay looked at the last missions (and tried looking at all updates, just search carnage for most of them, dont trust the wiki enough) we have (I think):

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

7/6? standard Cogs
1 Hammer Cog
1 Machinegun Cog
2 Wuffle Cogs?
4 Guard Cogs
1 Figurehead
1 Luxurious succubus
1 Elephantine Wraith
1 Camerathing
2 Grown Behemoth Cat fish (3/2? newly hatched)
4 Snailmen
1 Beastman?
Some sort of rhino or animal thing?

Will add/remove as I look, so this is by far not complete, probably won't be, feel free to do so your self if unsatisfied with the results.
"?" marks are requests for confirmation/additional detail.
Edit: Glad to see you all go offline around the same time means, I get to sleep round 2:00-4:00.
Edit: While still incomplete/probably full of errors, I think we have enough for at least one mission, at a stretch maybe two.

I like the list.  I agree we have enough to empower 1 mission - especially if it is a destruction mission - some of those troops cannot be sent on control.

One other reason to maybe do the volcano mission - it's guarded by merfolk.  We could really use some troops who could do easier underwater stuff, and are more flexibly useful than giant catfish, much as we all love our whiskered friends.  Merman mutagen might be worth getting, dunno but it tempts me.

There's also that mysterious 'something else' to be acquired as well there. 

Major concern - what if we lose?

If we do, we've lost almost all of our troops of every sort.  Keep in mind, the story has a path (I think) and it's doing what it does - it may not be based on 'what we're ready for'.  We could face attacks or other major problems when our forces have been almost eradicated.  Granted, that just means that -we- handle the problem directly ourselves sooner, and maybe that's a good answer anyway.

Final thought on this - Gamington is so nicely defensive.  I want him if we do go on 1 mission.  Dancing away the pain and all, plus the volcano mission is destruction, allowing all of his bonuses the most impact, I believe.

[Cain12]

I like the list.  I agree we have enough to empower 1 mission - especially if it is a destruction mission - some of those troops cannot be sent on control.

One other reason to maybe do the volcano mission - it's guarded by merfolk.  We could really use some troops who could do easier underwater stuff, and are more flexibly useful than giant catfish, much as we all love our whiskered friends.  Merman mutagen might be worth getting, dunno but it tempts me.

There's also that mysterious 'something else' to be acquired as well there. 

Major concern - what if we lose?

If we do, we've lost almost all of our troops of every sort.  Keep in mind, the story has a path (I think) and it's doing what it does - it may not be based on 'what we're ready for'.  We could face attacks or other major problems when our forces have been almost eradicated.  Granted, that just means that -we- handle the problem directly ourselves sooner, and maybe that's a good answer anyway.

Final thought on this - Gamington is so nicely defensive.  I want him if we do go on 1 mission.  Dancing away the pain and all, plus the volcano mission is destruction, allowing all of his bonuses the most impact, I believe.

So how does: Mission 1 (or 3, not feeling picky): Gamington, Snowkid (Can probably swim, plus ice powers, IIRC) or Game's woman , 1 Machinegun Cog, 4 Standard Cogs, 2 Wuffle Cogs (If we have them), and maybe the Luxury Succubus/Elephantine Wraith?

Mainly Cogs because they can be mostly replaced in a turn or two, least the standards.

[Tomcost]

We still have a problem: we don't know the exact amount of troops we have. We can't really decide if we don't.

[Imp]

We still have a problem: we don't know the exact amount of troops we have. We can't really decide if we don't.

Actually I really like Cain12's list.  I got some sleep and checked the list against what we sent on our last mission and what died on that mission.  Cain's list is quite accurate.  Reposting it here with a few question marks removed, notes added why (and yes, this list is just my best estimate of our forces, it definitely could still have some errors, even in my corrections):

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

7/6? standard Cogs  (10 were sent with Gamington, 3 died, we should have 7 alive, unless you mean that maybe Splintercog was hiding as a normal cog, so we don't really have 7 anymore?  I think he was hiding hiding, when we got the poem about him it said he didn't go on missions, he wasn't sent off to die - thus we should have 7)
1 Hammer Cog
1 Machinegun Cog
2 Wuffle Cogs? Tentatively no - we didn't send whuffles with either transport last mission - they can fly, we always send them if we have them, ergo we didn't have them.
4 Guard Cogs
1 Figurehead
1 Luxurious succubus
1 Elephantine Wraith
1 Camerathing
2 Grown Behemoth Cat fish (3/2? newly hatched)  We have the two, but they're newly hatched, not grown and gosh, I hope we let them live long enough to breed more if that's possible.  What, catfish inbreeding is a concern?  I don't care about catfish with 7 fins instead of 6 or possessing a third eye, does anyone?  I remember that our fish went fishing for us once - one caught a small whale, and a huge number of other creatures.  I want to keep our amazingly huge giant catfish from going extinct if possible.
4 Snailmen
1 Beastman?  Yes, we would have sent both on the anti-hero fight, but we were at max transport capacity already.  This one is the hippo-human beastman.
Some sort of rhino or animal thing?  This is Gorloceros, one of our three survivors from the anti-hero fight.

That poem about/from Splintercog was posted over a month ago, but it's got a lot of information that might be about Splinter, so I'm reposting it in the spoiler in case anyone wants to refresh their memory.  Because of what this poem says about him not being sent on missions, I would -really- like to keep this cog at base until he has been upgraded to at least a sidekick.  I suspect we will over time choose that path for him, or a higher one, and I'd like to keep that option open.

Spoiler: Splinter Cog (click to show/hide)

I walk in the night, around the lair.
A mistake made me smart. An error showed me the way.
We Cogs are weak. We Cogs are frail.
In the dark of the night, I move around the lair.
Sticking out from the shadows, I have a dramatic flair.
I will not be sent, on missions to die.
I am Splinter Cog...and how do I lie.
I am not near you, I am not far away.
I hide in plain sight, as clear as the day.
I am behind you, and yet above.
No matter what you say, I love to prose.
I do not compute. I do not Cog.
All that I am, is simply Splinter-Cog.
I see you asking, about who I am.
I will not answer, because that's who I am.
I tell you "Cog? Cog? Computing"
You move away.
I am lying...
But you'll never know anyway.

I was reminded too about Gamerlords reaction to Splintercog -

BEFORE WE GO ON THAT MISSION, FIND THAT DAMN COG THAT NICKED CERULEANS WAND THINGY FOR US. HE. WAS. FUCKING. AWESOME.

+1

+1

Lets keep Splinter alive if we can.  We loved that critter, we just don't really remember yet why we did/do still.  If several missions pass and the fire's still gone from our hearts for him, then we can consider changing how we use him - but I bet he's going to prove convincing and fascinating.

[shadenight123]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Upgraded the list.
The list is Official.
You do have two wuffle cogs. Dunno why you stopped using them, but you do have them.
http://eviloverlord.wikia.com/wiki/Overlord_Current_Army?action=edit
Now, since I can't really seem to sense in which direction this is going...let's go with an easier way.

Those in favor of Upgrading do write Upgrade
Those in favor of doing mission do write Mission

[Naryar]

Upgrade.

[10ebbor10]

I really like that volcano.

Mission Volcano.

[sjm9876]

I really like that volcano.

Or the ultimate weapon. Either, really.

Mission.

[Tomcost]

Spoiler: Some calculations (click to show/hide)

Amount of people we can send in control missions:
7 cogs
4 guardogs
1 hammer cog
1 assault cog
1 beastman
1 Elephant wraith
1 Figurehead
1 Luxurious succubus
1 Mauve

Total: 18
NOT FULL CAPACITY FOR A PROBABLY DANGEROUS CONTROL MISSION.
Note: Useless minions like camerathing and snailmen excluded

Mission.

Vocano.

And get some merfolk mutagen, or enslave them. We might need some underwater troops eventually.

[10ebbor10]

We could try to go for the dangerous mission, if we go ourselves and take extra sidekicks.

Seems like a bad idea though.

[Knit tie]

With all the annihilatyness going on, let's play it safe.

Mission. Maybe even the weapon one.

[Imp]

Err... But.... And....

Argh.

Mission.  Volcano.

[10ebbor10]

Yup, but after that we really should start upgrading stuff.