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[IamanElfCollaborator]

((Hmm. Is it possible to kill the persona thing you meet in the subconcious?))

((Nope. Persona = Pretty much you.


What did I miss?))

[RangerCado]

((Meme wants to be a mom and a vampire, agreed to suicide at one point, and Selina is ready to get a persona.))

[Xantalos]

((Hmm. Is it possible to kill the persona thing you meet in the subconcious?))

((Nope. Persona = Pretty much you.))

((How so? Section of the mind, personality, embodiment of an emotion...?))

[mcclay]

((Angerus has noone to talk to or do))

[IamanElfCollaborator]

((Hmm. Is it possible to kill the persona thing you meet in the subconcious?))

((Nope. Persona = Pretty much you.))

((How so? Section of the mind, personality, embodiment of an emotion...?))

((To put it lightly, killing it is....impossible. It is pretty much everything about you, it's inorexably linked to you. It can be changed, weakened or strengthened.

But killing it would require for its owner to die.))
Izzy runs into Angerus.

[Empiricist]

"@Elf, Selina's persona will undergo disintegration and restoration before she can summon it, right? Because if it undergoes negative-restoration in lieu of restoration, it would be an exaggerated caricature of her and thus ineffective at combat and if it just becomes absent nothing will come out. Furthermore, if it doesn't even undergo disintegration, nothing would really change and she'd probably just get a 'summon mythological representation of Selina' ability. Are we including those unfavorable outcomes?"
((A persona is "a kind of mask, designed on the one hand to make a definite impression upon others, and on the other to conceal the true nature of the individual" It's possible not to have one though.))

[mcclay]

"OH, HEY! HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU?!"

[Empiricist]

((The shadow is an unconscious complex defined as the repressed, suppressed or disowned qualities of the conscious self. According to Jung, the human being deals with the reality of the shadow in four ways: denial, projection, integration and/or transmutation.))

[IamanElfCollaborator]

((Well, something like that. The series itself explains it about three different times with three different explanations and I'm trying to make sense of it. Because I have no fucking idea how to Jungian.))
"If it becomes absent, lets just say we're screwed. If it turned into a negative caricature, we'd be fighting it."

[Xantalos]

((The shadow is an unconscious complex defined as the repressed, suppressed or disowned qualities of the conscious self. According to Jung, the human being deals with the reality of the shadow in four ways: denial, projection, integration and/or transmutation.))

((Hmm. So theoretically ... yeah, I think I'd know how to kill it.))

[RangerCado]

"S-s-s-so er... wh-wh-when do we... w-w-we do this...?" Selina looks nervous.

[Empiricist]

"Absence would just make her blind to the world, not necessarily screwed. Negative Restoration will defeat the whole point but may actually help her suppress her urges. If @Elf is basing this solely off of that series of games, the process will be forced to result in the best possible pattern of Disintegration followed by Restoration."
((Assuming Darnos even has a shadow, he certainly doesn't seem to be suppressing that much.))

[Xantalos]

((He isn't, but the Venom basically monopolized a part of his brain and mind and he basically has a part of his mind going 'ANGELANGELANGELANGELANGELANGEL~' all the damn time. So if the method by which I think will work works, I should be able to at least get rid of the mental aspect of it.))

[Empiricist]

((The issue with Jungian shadows is, that they are what's suppressed. Killing it is just suppressing it so it would still be there completely unchanged.))
"We can do it right now if @RangerCado and @Elf agree to it."

[Xantalos]

((No, what I'm planning is far more invasive and thorough.))