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[Pinstar]

So say I have Urist McCraftsdwarf who's primary job it is to, say, work at a single workshop.

Would it be a good/bad thing if I made him an extra-large bedroom and incorporated his workshop into the room? Would the value of the materials/finished goods held in the room count for the value of the bedroom in terms of happiness even if they are just sitting in the workshop itself or in a local stockpile? Is there a way to designate this workshop to be only used by the guy who lives there?

[Octobomb]

1. Sounds good, I will probably try this myself
2. Not sure
3. Burrows, although if you have another dwarf using it I don't think it matters since workshops don't make noise anymore (I think)

I have an idea: Each dwarf works in a compartment with a dining room, bed, workshop etc. All entrances are forbidden. Food is quantum stockpiled down and the only centralised industries are mining military and food, which are still separated. Could be excellent for keeping citizens out the way, productive, and they never develop social skill! Win-win.

[Torrasque666]

Easier way to ensure that ONLY the preferred dwarf uses it is to use workshop [P]rofile. Just open it up and select the dwarf you want to use it.

[dresdor]

1. Sounds good, I will probably try this myself
2. Not sure
3. Burrows, although if you have another dwarf using it I don't think it matters since workshops don't make noise anymore (I think)

I have an idea: Each dwarf works in a compartment with a dining room, bed, workshop etc. All entrances are forbidden. Food is quantum stockpiled down and the only centralised industries are mining military and food, which are still separated. Could be excellent for keeping citizens out the way, productive, and they never develop social skill! Win-win.

as long as they don't develop social relations with dwarves that are going to die violently. does it matter?

[AutomataKittay]

Having workshop in bedroom is good, buildings and anything constructed contributes it's value. Loose items doesn't contributes, though. Archiecture designed building is pretty good if you have bed on other side of the exit since anything built using archiect makes them happy to see it.

Restricting dwarves' access to workshops involve using 'P'rofile, which need manager noble assigned before it's avaliable.

Overall it's pretty nice idea if you have a specialist you likes or want to keep out of the way and a-hopping to the job real quick. Dwarves sometimes hangs out in bedrooms, sometimes in meeting zone, sometimes in statue garden.

[mek42]

Go further and build the workshop out of preferred materials.

[zubb2]

I have thought of doing this recently.
It might be a good idea to make all shopped dorfs farm their own tiny house plant and have their own still, maby.
It's an idea anyway.

Off topic,
I like that boom for the boom god quote thing.
My freinds call that disease (aspergers) they call it Ass burgers.

[SixOfSpades]

Well, if you're doing it for the sense of "this is MY home and workshop" and no real physical barriers, that certainly involves no complication . . . unless you've got a dwarf who uses more than one workshop, or you've got to remember to give your Novice metalsmiths permission to use the the Legendary guy's forge. For maximum efficiency, set up stockpiles for input/output directly above and/or below the workshop, with stairs right next to said workshop.

But if you're envisioning an "isolation capsule," where the dwarf sees nothing but his raw materials and maybe his dinner dropped down to him, and he drops his finished works to somebody else, that's a fast road to micromanagement hell. Consider how many times haulers move things. Now consider that you would have to Dump/Unforbid every single one of those things.

By all means, set up an area for your most valued craftsdwarves. Assign each one a home and workspace. Have burrows to keep the riff-raff out, and the enlightened ones in. Go ahead and make the whole zone infinitely self-sufficient if you want, preparing its own food for eternity . . . but don't seal out the haulers. A far better plan, in my mind, would be to give yourself the ability to seal out the haulers, probably by drawbridge, thus creating a "panic room" that protects all your most valuable dwarves in case of emergency. But if the haulers can't get your ☼weapons☼ to your militia, there's no point in having a Legendary Weaponsmith at all.

[Veylon]

[quote author=SixOfSpades link=topic=130211.msg4522331But if you're envisioning an "isolation capsule," where the dwarf sees nothing but his raw materials and maybe his dinner dropped down to him, and he drops his finished works to somebody else, that's a fast road to micromanagement hell. Consider how many times haulers move things. Now consider that you would have to Dump/Unforbid every single one of those things.[/quote]
Minecarts help a lot with this if you are willing to give the dwarf a helper or let a spouse move in. Have one route for food, one for input materials, and one for output. The first brings in food to fill the pile and then pushed off after a certain number of days. The second simply drops stuff off as it whizzes by. The third arrives empty and is loaded with whatever the product is and empty barrels. The assistant's only job is hauling, freeing the crafter from wasting a single minute from their shop.

[Drazinononda]

1. Sounds good, I will probably try this myself
2. Not sure
3. Burrows, although if you have another dwarf using it I don't think it matters since workshops don't make noise anymore (I think)

I have an idea: Each dwarf works in a compartment with a dining room, bed, workshop etc. All entrances are forbidden. Food is quantum stockpiled down and the only centralised industries are mining military and food, which are still separated. Could be excellent for keeping citizens out the way, productive, and they never develop social skill! Win-win.

as long as they don't develop social relations with dwarves that are going to die violently. does it matter?

Reading that question, I think you misunderstand a foundational part of DF; which is that all dwarves are going to die, and whether or not it's violent doesn't matter.

[SixOfSpades]

Also worthy of note is that, potentially, it's quite easy to sustain a full-size fortress (population 200-ish) with just two working dwarves: One does all the farming, brewing, and cooking, and the other is the fort's lone soldier who also does any kind of craft in his spare time. Seriously, given how ludicrously productive farming is, and how a single Legendary warrior can often turn back a siege singlehanded, and how amazingly lucrative crafting & trading can be, this sounds like a "challenge fort" that isn't even all that challenging.

So when you think about it, having an isolation tank to keep your Legendary Whatever cranking out ☼widgets☼ as fast as possible for as long as possible . . . is something of a pointless goal, really.

[Gentlefish]

But when the game's a pointless game, aren't pointless goals all that's left?

[Berossus]

Things in a stockpile wont raise the room value.
ive tried to get my Queens room up to "royal" by placing a priceless artefact sock on a 1x1 stockpile next to her desk, and she didnt raise a brow. Neither did the room.
But building that artefact cage next to her bed made her happy beyond all bounds.

[Vanvidum]

But building that artefact cage next to her bed made her happy beyond all bounds.

...Is the cage empty, or do you have something/someone exotic inside it?

Kinky, either way.

[Broseph Stalin]

It may be fun for narrative purposes but it realistically wouldn't increase his output.
Only built objects count toward the value of a room.
If you have a manager you can use q>P to set him as the only authorized worker.