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Yas pls, for extra epicness and plot and FEF1 lore connections!

Nah, we had enough and this game should end with Julius' coronation.

[freeformschooler]

THE GREAT PERFORMANCE DEBATE OF 2015

So it's come to my attention that 6+ performances on a single player game is ripe for abuse and could easily throw the whole thing out of balance. With that in mind, the good folks on IRC have helped me come up with a few ideas. We ought to take a vote here.

Option number one: Candy and Alec are identical in abilities

Essentially, Candy and Alec become some variety of Ninian or Nils. Either they each play for one unit, they each play for two units, or they each play for double diamonds (please no), there's no real difference.

Option number two: Candy plays for mages, Alec plays for warriors

There are a few ways to do this (higher of STR or DEF, equipped weapon, or just class), but the basic idea is that both characters can play for their entire diamond but only a certain type of unit. My only problem with this plan is the high cap of 8 units (if you were just gonna select one or two, why limit it by class?) makes it ripe for abuse.

Option number three: vertical/horizontal split

The idea here is that one unit plays for units directly above and below them, and another plays for units to their right and left. That way, you get a cap of four units performed per turn.

Options number four: preformance

I know this isn't popular, but it's on the table. One unit can dance two units after they've move, and another unit can dance only one unit even before they move.

Votes? Any other ideas?

[Sirus]

I'd say go for option 1, as it is closest to the vidya game rules. 2 performances per turn is still pretty nice.

[CrimsonEon]

I'd either say a two-unit-performance Option 1, or Option 2. Definitely opposed to Option 3, though. Seems way too arbitrary and annoying to remember.

[Xanmyral]

I'm fine with Option 1 or 2.

[SeriousConcentrate]

I'd either say a two-unit-performance Option 1

+1

[Sirus]

I'd either say a two-unit-performance Option 1

Actually I change my vote to this.

[freeformschooler]

Well, that's that, then.

[freeformschooler]

CHAPTER 1 IS HERE

New features:

• Chapter 1 has been implemented. You can duel against Morse, recruit Candy, and team up with Fezz and Grifen (Roderic, who only appeared briefly, has been moved to a different part of the game where he has more significance).
• Save files are implemented. You can save at any point during the game.
• Dance has been added to the FE2XP engine. Right now, Candy dances in a diamond, but by the time Alec is recruit-able, the previous dance/play suggestions will have been implemented.
• A good few Talk events have been added, and ONE Support has been added. Every character has at least one speaking role. Some conversations only appear under certain game conditions.
• Longbows, hatchets, and other mechanical improvements have been implemented.

Spoiler: Achievements (click to show/hide)

Try to get them all!

FEF1XP Complete!: Beat Chapter 1
Sparkle Sparkle: Recruit Candy with the power of dance.
Morse Code Cracker: Recruit Candy and beat Chapter 1 with all units alive
God, what have I done? Started the Secret Path
Manna Live: Beat Dea Historia

Spoiler: Hints (click to show/hide)

There is a difference between Hard and More Harder Mode. This difference is the reason the Secret Path is unavailable in More Harder Mode. Once you figure it out, you're on your way to the Secret Path.

Wondering how to recruit Candy? Leo can't do it, but someone else's heart is just as big...

Spoiler: Known bugs (click to show/hide)

Morse's move range is 1.
Sometimes characters will spawn with duplicates of items. I will fix this later.
The death bug should be fixed by now, but if anyone shows up in Chapter 1 who is supposed to be dead, let me know.
Level up screen does not display numbers properly.

[Haspen]

\o/

[Sirus]

Possible bug/oversight: Thickets give no DEF or Avoid.

ETA: Ah, I see. Thickets are not the Thick Forests but are more like Peaks: impassable to most (all?) units. Welp, Grifen's dead.

[darkpaladin109]

Oooh, neat. I'l be downloading the new version once I get home in7! hours.

[Sirus]

Some feedback so far:

23:33   Sirus   ...welp. Sheila just died to a lucky crit.
23:33   UXLZ   Is it a permanent death/
23:33   UXLZ   ?
23:34   Sirus   Yep
23:35   Sirus   ffs needs to tone down these maps a little I think. It's way too easy to do everything right and still lose people because this game doesn't run on FEF rules
23:35   UXLZ   Ah, it's got normal FE rules.
23:35   UXLZ   In regards to death?
23:35   Sirus   Yep
23:36   Ochita   yeah
23:36   Sirus   But enemies are still much stronger than your guys
23:36   Sirus   And have high-crit weapons like Slim Swords
23:36   Sirus   So
23:36   Sirus   Yeah
23:37      *** Tiruin joined #feftalk
23:37   Ochita   yup
23:37   Ochita   Crits are basically "welp there goes beloved character x"
23:38   Sirus   Also there's no vulneraries, so if Leo gets injured there's no way to keep him healthy :l
23:40   UXLZ   That just sounds stupid, to be honest.
23:40   UXLZ   Even with good positioning you can still just randomly lose people.
23:40   darkpaladin109   yeah, he really should add vulnearies
23:42      Lucus grumbles
23:42   Sirus   The characters should also start with the stats they had when they promoted to first class. Since there's no EXP pool, the characters don't all level up at the same rate and are individually weaker than every enemy on the field.
23:43   UXLZ   Why isn't there an XP pool? It honestly sounds like that would be *easier* to code?
23:43   Sirus   I'm guessing freeform just nabbed some ready-made Fire Emblem code
23:44   Sirus   Instead of making it all himself
23:44   darkpaladin109   well, yeah
23:44   darkpaladin109   he's using FEXP
23:44   UXLZ   I see.
23:44   darkpaladin109   what, did you expect him to make all of it by himself or something?
23:45   Sirus   I didn't
23:45   UXLZ   No, but it doesn't seem like making an XP pool global instead of singular wouldn't be too difficult. I thought this guy had made the entire thing, though.
23:45   UXLZ   If he's using something else it's understandable.

[Haspen]

@freeformschooler:

Saving Grifen and Fezz is nigh-impossible.
Nobody has vulneraries? How do I survive.
Game crashed split-second after Leo healed Maible and I heard 'weapon rank up' jingle. LOOK BELOW FOR ERROR POPUP
Some units have 6 MOV, some 4 MOV, while all of them should have 5 MOV.
Maible somehow has WTA disadvantage against fellow mages.
Sakura has no WTA advantage versus anima mages. Similarily, Fezz suffers no WTA disadvantage versus anima mages.
Maible cannot wear Fire tome for some reason.

_{Also is there an actual difference in difficulty settings? I always play 'More Harder' and I wonder if the other one is easier.}

Jingle error:

[Blade Master Model 42]

Every PC in FEF starts with a vulnerary, so I agree that it's weird none of the characters in this start with it.

[UXLZ]

I always sound like such a dick. = \