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Re: Fire Emblem on Forums 2 (FEF2), OOC Thread. Rebel route, ayy!
« Reply #6300 on: February 11, 2015, 11:56:24 pm »

It's a reference to a prior conversation.

Efa picked up the Knight's Crest after pew-pewing the boss last battle. Miguel approached her afterwards asking Efa if she had "picked anything up". Which she did, but I guess Powder Miner (and Efa) possibly missed it in all of the excitement.

At any rate, I'm more amused than anything. It can most certainly can wait until after the battle. :P
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« Reply #6301 on: February 11, 2015, 11:58:53 pm »

Oh, ok, lol. I thought you were talking about her handing over a talisman. My bad. o7
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« Reply #6302 on: February 12, 2015, 12:16:52 am »

Speaking of the Talisman, let's talk about who might need it. I'll be listing in my personal order of preference.

Miguel: Currently has 10 RES, and a 40% growth rate, but his low, low speed means he gets doubled, and his growths suggest that will continue to be the case. The talisman saves him more HP per turn than anyone else. On the other hand, we generally don't throw Miguel at mages.

Cyra: 3 RES and 25% growth is not a great combination, especially for a front line class like mercenaries. She has good speed and luck though, so she may be doubling enemies rather than being doubled.

Grifen: The peculiarities of crossbows means that Grifen has a tendency to be aimed directly at enemies who are magically inclined. And with 8 RES and only a 25% growth, she has a lot of room for improvement for her magical defenses. On the other hand, she's about to promote, and may find many of her turns spent healing people soon. Well, moreso than now, anyway.

Below this point, we're reaching situations where I personally would advocate against giving the talisman to the character in question.

Ciera: Wind magic is effective against her, so having a bit more RES to soak that up would be useful. On the other hand, she has 13 RES already, and just shy of 50% growth for it (better than Miguel or Grifen)

Julius: At 4 RES and a measly 10% growth, Julius can be expected to be more susceptible to magic than anyone else on the team come the end-game. That said, he's usually too busy to actually be at the front, so the difference it would make for him would likely be negligible.

Sheila: at 9 RES and 35% growth, the idea that Sheila could cap RES is actually impossible. She sticks to the front, and fights mages regularly. However, Sheila has fantastic speed, tons of hit points, and strength and skill to reliably chop mages in half. It would help her, but there are others who it would make a greater difference for.

Below this point, I will actively campaign against it.

Fezz: Despite low growth at 30%, Fezz has 15 RES. More to the point, he generally fights physical units. Briefly.

Candy/Alec: If we're relying on the ability of our performers to tank, we have done something very, very wrong. Next.

Efa: Has stellar RES already, and routinely attacks from outside a mage's capacity to counter in the first place. No.

Leo: AHAHAHAHAHA no.

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« Reply #6303 on: February 12, 2015, 12:41:09 am »

Not sure Cyra is best option, especially if she ends up going Nomad Trooper. Miguel is probably the best option.
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« Reply #6304 on: February 12, 2015, 12:51:17 am »

I'm working on the doubling issue. ^.^ That bonus speed helps and I love the fact that he's gotten SPD these last few rounds, but I've got ideas to address that weakness in a fuller manner.

I believe I'll start by forgoing an Iron Lance for an Iron Pilum as his free (E) Rank Weapon. With that in hand, he'll be dishing out some pretty hefty damage just from base strength and Momentum alone; enough to do a number on any of the major foes we're going to face. He'll stand at 28 STR in an ideal setting immediately after he promotes. Still. He's not exactly going to be chopping people in half, and the Pilum will break relatively quickly if I'm not judicious about using it, but hey. It's a start! Speaking of which, how does this look?

Personal Skill: Iberian Whirlwind - When fighting an enemy unit in Melee, +2 AS. 

His Personal Skill won't help as much against ranged opponents, but that's ok because I like Personal Skills that are generally a little tougher to activate, or have situations where they realistically won't activate. A Pilum can help cover the weaknesses that come from not having that extra AS when using a throwing weapon or being attacked by mages. If his Personal Skill activates and he has Momentum, he'll have 16 AS, which isn't horrible.

The main thing will just be keeping track of Momentum. With two performers, we'll have to keep track just how far Miguel is moving each turn, because he can realistically earn those Momentum bonuses quite often.

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As per the Talisman... I don't know. His RES isn't exactly bad exactly, it's just that he hasn't been fast enough to take most mages head on. I'll leave the final decision to others.
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« Reply #6305 on: February 12, 2015, 12:57:23 am »

The trouble is, we're level 19, so you've only got one more realistic chance of grabbing SPD as a pref stat for quite some time.

We don't have to figure it out right now, but we should try to have it figured out by the time the map ends.

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« Reply #6306 on: February 12, 2015, 12:59:27 am »

Blerp. Not sure how to put this one Powder, but Efa's actually holding a Knight's Crest.

The one that Miguel needs to promote. :P
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« Reply #6307 on: February 12, 2015, 01:08:08 am »

I'd personally say Miguel or Ciera and since Ciera is getting +3 RES on promo, Miguel is probably the better choice. Grif will also get +3 res and Cyra will get either 1 (Hero) or 0 (Nomad Trooper)
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« Reply #6308 on: February 12, 2015, 01:17:50 am »

Yeah, Grifen will be getting a lot of RES on promote and I plan to toss the extra 5% growth into RES anyway to try and squeeze a bit more out. Plus she got a Body Ring earlier so she's probably good on stat boosts. I vote against her getting it.
Ciera's got a pegasus rider's high RES already and stands a decent chance of capping even without the Talisman, so no to her.
Pretty much all of Blade's other points I'm in agreement with.
My vote's for Miguel or Cyra.
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« Reply #6309 on: February 12, 2015, 01:19:44 am »

"High res" he says. Meanwhile, I'm pretty sure I'm the only person to have not capped a stat. I'm not saying Ciera should have the talisman, I'm just saying Ciera doesn't exactly have "high" stats. She has balanced stats, there's a difference.
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« Reply #6310 on: February 12, 2015, 01:30:12 am »

You've got 13 and you're gaining 3 more on promotion, if I remember correctly. Which will probably happen after this map. 16 RES is nothing to sneeze at.

Meanwhile Cyra has basically none while Miguel gets doubled by nearly anything.
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« Reply #6311 on: February 12, 2015, 01:34:09 am »

Note that I made the same exact argument for Ciera. I specifically said that since she's gaining 3 RES on promo, she shouldn't get the talisman. I'm just also saying that Ciera isn't exactly high stats in anything. She's just decent stats in a bunch of things.
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« Reply #6312 on: February 12, 2015, 01:44:33 am »

Wait until Leo caps RES, and then give it to me to break the stat cap and the game.

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This post might not be serious at all until the colon: I agree with giving it to Miguel.
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« Reply #6313 on: February 12, 2015, 06:33:58 am »

Ok,here is the plan.

Julius to 8-3, opens the chest
Miguel grab Matilda, canto to 9-3
Fezz to 10-2
Candy to 9-2, dance Miguel and Fezz
Miguel to 14-3, drop Matilda on 14-4
Ciera to 16-6
Grif to 11-6, grab Cyra, canto to 14-6
Leo to 15-7
Alec to 15-6, bard Ciera, Leo, and Grif
Grif to 17-4, drop Cyra on 16-4, canto to 18-4
Leo to 15-4

Fezz to 15-2, blast the boss (81 hit)
If the boss is still alive, Ciera to 17-4, toss a jav at the boss (64 hit)
If the boss is dead, Ciera to 17-4, stab archer C
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« Reply #6314 on: February 12, 2015, 08:57:36 am »

I sort of agree. Either Cyra or Miguel would be good picks. I'm leaning towards Cyra myself, since magic deals quite a bit of damage. Even if she's not getting doubled, she's still going to be hurting fairly badly if any mage hits her.
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