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[Sanure]

((Look at what Nobillise is doing. +5 dex to allies. then look at each time Luthar dragged Kyle. Dragging Kyle isn't a Dex issue but a STR issue Each time he dragged Kyle was because he failed to break free. And he was aready penalized. I will say this: Instead of making his dex go down by going after his Key, put him into a position where he can't dodge. It works much better. And no, I don't mean use Kyle's fear ability, because Luthar would be unaffected due to already being under another form of mind-control. Also, do look at how much health Luthar has. Ok, that's all the hints I shall give.))

[Akroma]

((It's less about wether or not Kyle is dragged or not +40 Dex > +5 Dex. You are ignoring ICARUS ability. With 65 dex, you *can not* roll a 61. The result would have been 101, the key would be stolen, and the 3 actions afterwards would have gone towards attacking various enemies. THAT is the crucial thing. the Kyle grapple and the fact that the penalties on Luthar did not take shadows attack into account are just small things, none of which matter comapred to ICARUS being entirely ignored))

[Sanure]

((It's less about wether or not Kyle is dragged or not +40 Dex > +5 Dex. You are ignoring ICARUS ability. With 65 dex, you *can not* roll a 61. The result would have been 101, the key would be stolen, and the 3 actions afterwards would have gone towards attacking various enemies. THAT is the crucial thing. the Kyle grapple and the fact that the penalties on Luthar did not take shadows attack into account are just small things, none of which matter comapred to ICARUS being entirely ignored))

((Okay. Look. The result would not have been 101 unless if it rolled a 36 it could have been a 66 or a 115. Now, I do admit I need to re-roll ICarus and everyone after's turn. But DO not assume that a roll would be in the players favor just because of a high dex. Also, do not assume that the rolls are in the enemies favor. Because this last turn had been weird to begin with. Honestly, I should have made sure I did the turn correctly last night. That's on me. Edit coming soon. ))

[Akroma]

yes, that's what I said. I dont understand why you are quoting it.

Unless ICARUS rolled a -4, she could not have rolled below 66, and that's when she rolls a 1. More than likely, she rolls well beyond 80. But even if she rolled a 1, Luthat stands at a 71 -10 (not -5, es explained above). ICARUS would have gotten the key.

[Sanure]

See my post again. my computer is acting up. Also, what has been rolled matters not now. Argument closed.

[PrivateNomad]

 <One does not simply summon a powerful uncreated entity with sacrifices and tell it to help you--weaker entities can easily be summoned and dominated, but you must bargain with the stronger ones. Often with souls. Unless you have any souls lying about, I would rather not risk my life to attempt a summoning.>

[Projeck37]

Ashley teleports reinforcements into battle, to which she promptly takes damage because of -10 mana cost.

[PrivateNomad]

 <What's the plan, ICARUS?>

[Akroma]

<Open the vaticans vault with Luthars magic key, inside is Osmodias powersource. We get rid of that, and the order returns to normal. We then kill Osmodias, Luthar and each and every one of the order that does not stand down.>

((see my post with the actions for the turn on how to do that))

[PrivateNomad]

PN's characters do what Akroma had them do.

 <Alright then.>
 <Let's kill these disgusting abominations of creation and void! Yeah!>

[Projeck37]

<...>
Ashley definitely feels awkward.

[PrivateNomad]

 <Not you Ashley, the demons I mean. Because demons are both a- gah, you know what I mean.>

[Projeck37]

<I'm equally both as well.>

[PrivateNomad]

 <I meant demons, not voidwalkers. Demons. I would never insult you like that.>

[Akroma]

<The summoned demons are low priority. Once the members of the order are no longer mind-controled, they will take care of them.>