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[Akroma]

"We can learn it. But that's besides the point, france was just an example of millions. What matters is the fundamental problem that comes with the difference in strength. It leads to an ingrained attitude that is too widespread in humanity. "It's alright, they are small". As long as that attitude is not changed, we can not live a life of dignity among humans. Leave out all the actually dangerous crime, just look at how I am treated here. I am constantly being picked up, carried around cuddled and what not else, and it occured to none that I might not want this. They see me as some cute sort of pet or something, and handle me alongside their whims. Their whims are not negative in nature, but their whims nevertheless. I am putting up little resistance, because I need allies. But most of my people would not resist out of the sheer terror that comes along when something twenty times your size suddenly starts handling you around as they please, with hands so much stronger than themselves. They freeze up in terror, and will lead a live without dignity. They will accept dangerous at whatever pay their boss offers them, because it can be a sheer hopeless task to try and stand up to someone who sees you as nothing as a rodent that he can send into the machinery for almost no cost. We must not become second-class people that just barely stand above pets. We can't just do as suprised humans have done in the past and begin an uprising, or wage war to claim our own land and nation. The sentiment against the black people has not even fully gone yet, and they are more than capable off fighting for themselves, and more importantly, are decidedly human. We are decidedly not human. If we rise up and are perceived as a threat, the underlying attitude of humanity, that we are just rodents of no value, will leave us no chance of being victorious"

((edit for Twi: They are not fighting. This might be the calmest and most cause orientated discussion they had so far))

[IamanElfCollaborator]

((Wait. So fingerlings are tiny....
...
...
I think the solution is to act like they're Fae. Nobody pisses with the Fae.))

[Akroma]

((you mean the fae that kidnap children that get too close to their pixie ring?, leaving nothing behind but vague legends of a weird danger that befalls those who wander into nthis particular, isolated location? I dare say they already do, depending on the motivation of the fae))

[Twi]

((This will not stop Stella from insulting them. :v))

Asuna looms behind Will and Hainuwele in a creepy fashion until Stella throws a spoon at her.

[IamanElfCollaborator]

((you mean the fae that kidnap children that get too close to their pixie ring?, leaving nothing behind but vague legends of a weird danger that befalls those who wander into nthis particular, isolated location? I dare say they already do, depending on the motivation of the fae))

((Pretty much. Only a complete and utter idiot would piss with the Fae now that they're essentially real, what with magic and stuff.))

[Akroma]

((in short, they'll just continue as they are now, killing those who venture too close into the haunted mountains ))

[GreatWyrmGold]

"We can learn it. But that's besides the point, france was just an example of millions. What matters is the fundamental problem that comes with the difference in strength. It leads to an ingrained attitude that is too widespread in humanity. "It's alright, they are small". As long as that attitude is not changed, we can not live a life of dignity among humans. Leave out all the actually dangerous crime, just look at how I am treated here. I am constantly being picked up, carried around cuddled and what not else, and it occured to none that I might not want this. They see me as some cute sort of pet or something, and handle me alongside their whims. Their whims are not negative in nature, but their whims nevertheless. I am putting up little resistance, because I need allies. But most of my people would not resist out of the sheer terror that comes along when something twenty times your size suddenly starts handling you around as they please, with hands so much stronger than themselves. They freeze up in terror, and will lead a live without dignity. They will accept dangerous at whatever pay their boss offers them, because it can be a sheer hopeless task to try and stand up to someone who sees you as nothing as a rodent that he can send into the machinery for almost no cost. We must not become second-class people that just barely stand above pets. We can't just do as suprised humans have done in the past and begin an uprising, or wage war to claim our own land and nation. The sentiment against the black people has not even fully gone yet, and they are more than capable off fighting for themselves, and more importantly, are decidedly human. We are decidedly not human. If we rise up and are perceived as a threat, the underlying attitude of humanity, that we are just rodents of no value, will leave us no chance of being victorious"

((edit for Twi: They are not fighting. This might be the calmest and most cause orientated discussion they had so far))

"Do you have any evidence for this attitude, aside from 'This guy got drunk and broke stuff' or 'These people started criticizing how we were killing every giant who stumbled across our invisible enclave'? And seriously, what do you think people will be trying to kill you for? You're too small and, well, human-like to kill for sport; you'renot valuable dead in any way; and once people learned about you, it would be hideously illegal. And trust me, showing up as a threat is the last thing you want to do. Last time a threat came up against this Western world...well, it kinda collapsed under its own economic issues, but the time before that the threat was pretty well destroyed. And they had way more than 400,000 people."

((in short, they'll just continue as they are now, killing those who venture too close into the haunted mountains ))

((Not if Will can relocate and integrate them!))

[IamanElfCollaborator]

((in short, they'll just continue as they are now, killing those who venture too close into the haunted mountains ))

((The compromise will probably be that they have magic telling them to avoid this place, along with wiping their memories of the Fingerlings, applied to them and sent back out.))

[Twi]

((Tee hee.))

So, to recap: Belladonna is going.

Joan is going with Keith.

Marie is plannig on crashing the party.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Also, Cyrielle & co are trying to go so they can pick up Will and head to the party. And also lend him a suit and get him cuffed to Luna.

[Akroma]

"Your scientists have estimated that between 1 to 4 billion species have gone extinct due to human lifestyle. And you are well on the way to increase that number, poisoning water and air and destroying natural habitats. The activists that try to prevent that are mostly just a vocal minority, that are smilled at, but ultimately ignored if it is too inconvenient. This speakes volumes on how humans see themselves in the machinations of the world. They are not inhabitants, they are owners, and they shape the world to their whim. When accused, they will usualy argue that it is a bad thing, but they will return to their bed at night and sleep soundly, without a worry in the world."

[IamanElfCollaborator]

Wukong generates a cloud underneath him, and the two other clouds merge with it.
"All aboard the Monkey Express!"

Slamming his staff on the ground, the group are propelled through the sky, and over the clouds, with Wukong occasionally slamming his staff on a cloud to carry them farther, before, after half an hour, landing a short distance away from the Savoy.

[GreatWyrmGold]

"Your scientists have estimated that between 1 to 4 billion species have gone extinct due to human lifestyle."

"Source it or you're a filthy liar."

"And you are well on the way to increase that number, poisoning water and air and destroying natural habitats. The activists that try to prevent that are mostly just a vocal minority, that are smilled at, but ultimately ignored if it is too inconvenient. This speakes volumes on how humans see themselves in the machinations of the world. They are not inhabitants, they are owners, and they shape the world to their whim. When accused, they will usualy argue that it is a bad thing, but they will return to their bed at night and sleep soundly, without a worry in the world."[/size]

"I would like to point out two things about this view. One: Some of the species that went extinct include the short-tailed hopping mouse, long-tailed hopping mouse, big-eared hopping mouse, and Darwin's Down hopping mouse. There are still mice hopping around, just ones of average tail size and not on Darwin's Down. Two: There are two groups wanting to prevent it: The vocal minority and the powerless majority. And this isn't exactly a parallel case. In fact, the presence of your species would galvanize the environmental movement. Makes you wonder how many species could have been saved if you had made people realize they were killing more than long-tailed hopping mice..."

[IamanElfCollaborator]

"I'll meet you by the outside of the hotel, go meet your friend."

[Twi]

"Good Will. Now just convince her."