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[Empiricist]

((Because Fate would have not intervened. She wouldn't have the right personality requirements. The only reason why regular Cyrielle is alive is because Fate hijacked most of her bodily functions and used her as a host.))

[kj1225]

((Fine. Then don't have her. Both of you.))

[OREOSOME]

<I'm ready to go. This should prove to be interesting.>
<Uh.. I'll come with you guys too. This'll be awesome.>
<As shall I!>
Lucas continues getting acquainted with the gun, still seemingly being used to using guns like that, in the way his body is moving.

[RangerCado]

"Um... h-how are you f-f-feeling Yuri...?" Selina gives her a shy smile.

[Empiricist]

<I'll stay away. I'll send my UAV in, but don't expect any participation short of occasional shots and snark.>

[ragnarok97071]

((... That's not a problem. That's a preference. There are ways to work around that one single event rather easily.))

((It's less the single event and more a combination of "poor writing"* and "why do you get to declare all this again?"**. If you'll notice, if you had read my post, you would have realized that the problems go beyond this one plot. You might also have noticed a compromise, but nope. Sues'm Caes has to be the origin of EVAREETHIN!))

((*I notice that Shys'm Caes has never answered the "How did you get bound?" question at all. Unless you count what is basically "I don't want to talk about it." Seriously, that's a ginormous plot hole there.))
((**Two things. One: It means you get to declare the backstories of this universe, the universes of several other forum games--including only one you wrote, but several by other players of this game--as well as, again, anything else we cross RotMG over with (which, due to a vague metaplot I've discussed a bit with Elf, will be a fair number. Two: If and when Yuri finishes the subplot of breaking the bond with SC, you will be controlling an omnipotent character. And if you don't see how those are problems there's something wrong with you.))

((This universe, yes. I JUST said that it's possible for other places to exist. Or didn't you READ THAT? the issue is that this creation originated with her. Anything that wasn't part of that creation and is just bridged into this one can have a different origin, and it's entirely possible for single universes to be created that didn't spring from her, at least in that she didn't create them directly. She hardly has a monopoly on Creation. Hell, Selina could create a universe if she got a big enough battery. And I got permission to do it from Scap back when he ran the game, so it's part of the backstory. Second, I don't intend for her to. I didn't even intend for her to get her own body, that was something that came out of RP.))

"Um... h-how are you f-f-feeling Yuri...?" Selina gives her a shy smile.

"I am fine, thank you. How are you feeling, Selina?"

[Empiricist]

((I think the primary issue was, when Demons Run was conceptualized, no one would have expected there to be any crossovers.))

[ragnarok97071]

((I think the primary issue was, when Demons Run was conceptualized, no one would have expected there to be any crossovers.))

((Basically. If it hadn't crossed over, there wouldn't be a problem. If we had known it would cross over, I would have made loopholes (perhaps just make it clear that it's possible there are other Creations or something, which is technically true anyway because LaFotM is crossed over and has features that simply don't work when connected to this.))

[Empiricist]

((Yeah, I understand what you mean. When I wrote up Cyrielle, I didn't think that the war would end any time soon but it did so that's why she's more of a side character now, because she has no reason to stay.))

[GreatWyrmGold]

((This universe, yes. I JUST said that it's possible for other places to exist. Or didn't you READ THAT? the issue is that this creation originated with her. Anything that wasn't part of that creation and is just bridged into this one can have a different origin, and it's entirely possible for single universes to be created that didn't spring from her, at least in that she didn't create them directly. She hardly has a monopoly on Creation. Hell, Selina could create a universe if she got a big enough battery. And I got permission to do it from Scap back when he ran the game, so it's part of the backstory. Second, I don't intend for her to. I didn't even intend for her to get her own body, that was something that came out of RP.))

((1. Ninja'd, I skimmed it.
2. You were pretty against it when I suggested it. What changed?))

[RangerCado]

"N-n-nervous... a-a-a-and sc-sc-scared..." Selina tries to smile a bit more but is obviously quite nervous.

[ragnarok97071]

((This universe, yes. I JUST said that it's possible for other places to exist. Or didn't you READ THAT? the issue is that this creation originated with her. Anything that wasn't part of that creation and is just bridged into this one can have a different origin, and it's entirely possible for single universes to be created that didn't spring from her, at least in that she didn't create them directly. She hardly has a monopoly on Creation. Hell, Selina could create a universe if she got a big enough battery. And I got permission to do it from Scap back when he ran the game, so it's part of the backstory. Second, I don't intend for her to. I didn't even intend for her to get her own body, that was something that came out of RP.))

((1. Ninja'd, I skimmed it.
2. You were pretty against it when I suggested it. What changed?))

((I assumed a tiered structure was what you were talking about. Omniverse contains multiversii contains universii, which in the case of RotMG, has an origin in Shis. Seperate creations would mean different origin points and entirely different structures.))

"N-n-nervous... a-a-a-and sc-sc-scared..." Selina tries to smile a bit more but is obviously quite nervous.

<It will be alright.> She rests a hand on top of Selina's shoulder.

[kj1225]

((Yeah, I understand what you mean. When I wrote up Cyrielle, I didn't think that the war would end any time soon but it did so that's why she's more of a side character now, because she has no reason to stay.))

((She could develop even more as a character and not just have been for a one off thing because with some development she can be a more interesting character than just there for meta and snark.))
<You should come in person. Sometimes I forget what you look like it has been so long.>

[ragnarok97071]

((Yeah, I understand what you mean. When I wrote up Cyrielle, I didn't think that the war would end any time soon but it did so that's why she's more of a side character now, because she has no reason to stay.))

((She could develop even more as a character and not just have been for a one off thing because with some development she can be a more interesting character than just there for meta and snark.))
<You should come in person. Sometimes I forget what you look like it has been so long.>

((Well, you could just work it that her surviving had to happen because plot and have some other thing happen to save her and give her roughly analogous (or perhaps just completely random) powers. Like I'm developing Yuri as having a different focus (hell, a different backstory and shit) because Shis never showed up due to not existing. Which is a good thing that she exists, because I guess Yuri couldn't come because Shis has to stay in this Creation >_>))

[Empiricist]

((Yes, she is developing, but she still has no reason to be in Northdale when she could be in Stanford.))