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[wolfchild]

<Go to the toilette and teleport away, and said swordswoman will not even know you are gone until it's too late. What we need from you is to put these arias you learned to good use, to help us out in the battle. You know, where we are risking our lives.>

<I'm not sure she's listening to me. I tried to ask her why we weren't going to battle like an hour ago, so I could slip away or something. She's still sparring.>

<maybe ashley could "abduct" you will?, I would come and cause a scene, but i got a demon in my claws>

[Akroma]

<What, she won't let you take a toilette break? Sounds like nonsense Will. Admit it, you are just scared. And hey, that's a totaly valid reason to stay away from a battle. But don't lie to us.>

[GreatWyrmGold]

<Consider the organization she's part of. Consider that she decided that training is the best thing to do during a battle. Consider everything that's happened in our lives. Is nonsense so improbable?>
<An abduction would work. Probably.>

[Akroma]

<She is under mindcontrole, if ARthurs explanation holds right, she won't interfer with the fight anyway, as her order is to train. Just teleport out, your cover is no longer needed. It's not like she will instantly carve you apart fro teleporting, considering you will be *at a different location altogether*. Even if she is good, she can't cut through space and time.>

[PrivateNomad]

 <Mind control sucks.>

[GreatWyrmGold]

<She is under mindcontrole, if ARthurs explanation holds right, she won't interfer with the fight anyway, as her order is to train. Just teleport out, your cover is no longer needed. It's not like she will instantly carve you apart fro teleporting, considering you will be *at a different location altogether*. Even if she is good, she can't cut through space and time.>

<Requires time and concentration.>
((A, it was specifically designed to not allow cheaty teleports out. B, I'm waiting for Sanure to...you know...exist.

C, I'm bored with the direction this game has taken. "Oh there's a threat to the world? Which of our absurdly OP powers should be used to deal with it?"))

[PrivateNomad]

((It is getting kinda boring with the plots--but it will get better after this plot is finally over with.))

[Akroma]

((So far, it's the enemy with the absurdly OP powers and us mostly being ineffective.

Anyway, what kind of direction *would* you like it to take?))

[GreatWyrmGold]

((No, the PCs also have OP powers. Certainly ones that screw up pretty much any plot more complex than "there's bad guy, kill him". Ashley and the bracelets; Selina, Kyle and other crafters; yes, Will; all those people who summon/deal with gods and beings of similar power; etc. And that's not getting into the sheer number of characters.
And what direction do I want it to take? Ideally, a continuity wipe. Go back to like it was in the beginning. A few characters with a few well-defined powers, fighting a superior enemy against overwhelming odds, trying to find any advantage we could that might let us win.))

[PrivateNomad]

((There's always the option of limiting the number of characters in a plot.))

[GreatWyrmGold]

((Number one: How?
Number two: That doesn't change that there are still a silly number and variety of game-breaking powers, if you want your game to be more than "kill enemies X, Y, and X".))

[RangerCado]

((No, the PCs also have OP powers. Certainly ones that screw up pretty much any plot more complex than "there's bad guy, kill him". Ashley and the bracelets; Selina, Kyle and other crafters; yes, Will; all those people who summon/deal with gods and beings of similar power; etc. And that's not getting into the sheer number of characters.
And what direction do I want it to take? Ideally, a continuity wipe. Go back to like it was in the beginning. A few characters with a few well-defined powers, fighting a superior enemy against overwhelming odds, trying to find any advantage we could that might let us win.))

((Kind of why I disappeared from this. Too many people, too many characters. It got confusing and we couldn't have a set plot anymore.))

[Akroma]

((overwhelming odds can be provided))

[RangerCado]

((overwhelming odds can be provided))

((But would it be fun? Would it be interesting for everyone? And that doesn't solve the end result of over 3 dozen active characters at times trying to interact.))

[Akroma]

((I always said that you guys made too many chars, note how I always sticked to one, dropping Hainuwele as soon as ICARUS came about. Don't get me started about power levels . As far as interaction goes, I will tell you the same as everyone else - you alone decide how much interaction your char gets or not. If you want combat to be less of a clusterfuck, you may or may not decide to have one combatant, and various characters purely for non-combat, kinda like what GWG has going, Nuriel in battles, Will in non-battles. Everyone having a swarm of characters is just a stupid idea. If everyone only focuses on one, *maybe* two, suddenly it's a whole lot less clusterfucky))

edit: ((that being said, it's not always the GMs fault if a plot is not fun. Characters need to involve themselves in the plot too. I've tried to make my plots involve some characters, from players who I know will likely enjoy that kind of thing, for everyone else, there are lose ideas on plots and plotlettes at best. One can never make a plot fun for a player who sits idly and wants the plot to be served on a plater. Props for GWG for wanting to infiltrate the thing, bad props for Sanure I guess for never expanding that beyond Will suddenly giving us all the information. That was a bit dry, and I can see why GWG might be disappointed. Of course between Sanures downtimes and GWGs mutings, overlap was a bit short at times))