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AngelxAlistair (Toy ship ahoy!)

2 (8.7%)

RichardxCyrielle (Yes, she's a side character. No, that does not make this any less cute.)

0 (0%)

MariaxSelinaxYurixNuriel (HAREM)

5 (21.7%)

RichardxCamille (The only couple who knew each other for longer than two months. Woo~)

1 (4.3%)

AshleyxConnyxNurielxBismuth (OPPOSING HAREM)

1 (4.3%)

LylexEveryone (An Uke and five Semes. Go figure.)

2 (8.7%)

AlistairxCatherine (Minako, eat your heart out.)

0 (0%)

MariaxSelina (The original, accept no substitutes.)

1 (4.3%)

LyleXRichard (Too much yuri, not enough yaoi.)

1 (4.3%)

IzzyxLucas (Because a normal tsundere is not enough.)

1 (4.3%)

WillxStella (*insert witty tagline here*)

2 (8.7%)

MariexEveryone (Marie, duh.)

2 (8.7%)

AshleyXRichard (Screw retcons, I want my OTP now!)

1 (4.3%)

MariaxMattxSelina (The original OT3. And who was Matt again?)

2 (8.7%)

Richard/CyriellexFourth Wall (Who didn't see this coming?)

2 (8.7%)

Total Members Voted: 23

[IamanElfCollaborator]

I'm sorry, but to be fair, the system Scap left me didn't leave me much in terms of diplomatic style endings. Hence why I'm working on fixing that.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Is that something you two can agree on?

Yeah, we're both considering quitting.
Although in my case it's as much from the time commitment it requires as anything. These stupid arguments about stupid things that should not be hard to get are only icing on the cake.

P.S. Re: Characters being dicks
Have your characters be horrible people all you want, just don't make them go from "nice" to "jerk" abruptly.
Explain your characters' heinous acts if you want.
Don't try to justify them. That leads to arguments, which lead to Elf being sad.

[IamanElfCollaborator]

Well, if you want to quit, then it was a good run, GWG and Kj. I quite like rping with you guys, as with everyone and seeing people quit is kinda disheartening.

*Elf tries not to cry

[Twi]

For the love of god. All you have to do is stop trying to force your views on other people, stop trying or even expected every little action to be justified or excused by the players.

-_-

LOOKING AT YOU GWG.

Those walls of nitpicks do not help KJ be not defensive. >:C

[Xantalos]

Don't make me join up with a 53 year-old common sense farmer who shoots lasers.

For the love of god. All you have to do is stop trying to force your views on other people, stop trying or even expected every little action to be justified or excused by the players.

-_-

And this too I guess.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Well, if you want to quit, then it was a good run, GWG and Kj. I quite like rping with you guys, as with everyone and seeing people quit is kinda disheartening.

*Elf tries not to cry

I'm not quitting yet, I'm just saying...
And yeah, I know. It was a long run, but it's getting less fun.

For the love of god. All you have to do is stop trying to force your views on other people, stop trying or even expected every little action to be justified or excused by the players.
-_-

If the other players don't see what's wrong with killing people or putting the lives of monsters above those of children, especially when the children at risk are in the majority, I don't know what to say...

[USEC_OFFICER]

Don't make me join up with a 53 year-old common sense farmer who shoots lasers.

Please do. That sounds awesome.

[Empiricist]

The more you try to justify your characters, the more it seems like you're just projecting yourself onto them, which isn't very good roleplaying seeing as it ends up amounting to inserting a more idealized version of yourself.

[Twi]

* Twi bangs head against the wall.

Were you listening? It doesn't MATTER what the players think about it! That is literally what I just said!

The more you try to justify your characters, the more it seems like you're just projecting yourself onto them, which isn't very good roleplaying seeing as it ends up amounting to inserting a more idealized version of yourself.

[GreatWyrmGold]

The more you try to justify your characters, the more it seems like you're just projecting yourself onto them, which isn't very good roleplaying seeing as it ends up amounting to inserting a more idealized version of yourself.

That's another reason I'm advocating against that.

(Explaining doesn't have this problem. You can--hypothetically--explain Hypothetical Character A throwing rocks at Selina as HCA being a by-the-Bible fundie, but that doesn't mean you think lesbians should be stoned.)

[Akroma]

GMing 101, *rules* for diplomacy are a boring and broken way to deal with things, especialy with largely unchecked dicerolls


when players have the ability to talk people out of things just because they rolled well, it will reliably crash any plot you ever have in mind




I urge you strongly, in a game about roleplay, handle diplomacy via diplomacy. that's more work, but it encourages immersion and actual interests in the NPCs motivation. (of course it also implies they have a motivation). this game is almost entirely dialouge, why would an diplomatic approach be a roll?




when someone wants to end combat peacefully, depending on WHY there is any fighting, often just saying so might be an option. or leave you open to enemies killing you, REALLY depends on why you are fighting




assuming manticores are probably not very intelligent, that is not an option though. if they act on instinct though, scaring them away, distracting them, or simply protecting the children until they are evacuated though are fair options, as well as trying to capture them under nets or various traps




manticores have human faces too. they might be capable of speech, and their intelligence could vary wildly, depending on why the hell they are here


of course if they are just random encounters, that option either falls flat, or you just improvise and spin something out of it. GMing is 90% going along with what is happening. thinking on your feet is not always easy though

[Twi]

Well then don't ask KJ to justify his. I doubt he'd do what Kyle does here either. Sheesh...

[kj1225]

Okay, toning it down!

What does everyone think of cheese pizza?

Don't make me join up with a 53 year-old common sense farmer who shoots lasers.

Don't say that, you're just encouraging me.

[IamanElfCollaborator]

Akroma, I never said anything about rolls, and anyway they aren't of human level intelligence, if they were, then rolling and roleplay would be used.


Half tempted to put the game on hiatus so that everyone can chill off and forget the arguments.

[Twi]

I think cheese pizza is delicious! Though I tend to prefer having more things on pizza than just cheese.
also nooo we still need Rag to exist