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Total Members Voted: 23

[IamanElfCollaborator]

Emp is correct. Whatever Yuri fucked up, she fucked up. She only changed something ELSE, in the present, in an attempt to fix what went wrong, not the past.

What's done is done. The past cannot be changed.

Also, time travel is impossible because OOC it's a pain in the ass to keep track of already, and IC the past is but a concept, and the future has Fate.

[Empiricist]

I suppose the easiest way to manage this is to allow alternate forms of time travel, as long as it cannot cascade its effects onto the present. Multiple worlds, reconstruction, they do not in themselves change the presence in accordance to the past. The only form disallowed is the classical "return to true past" one.

[IamanElfCollaborator]

True. I'll allow it.

[Empiricist]

I do, of course, have a contingency proposal for when someone inevitably finds a loophole: a person's actions always affects their temporal coordinate only.
If someone somehow goes back in time and replace the daggers Caesar's murderers with shivs, the past remains the same, some unfortunate person in the present just suddenly gains shiv wounds.
If Pearl Harbor was altered so that the pilots of the bomber swam all the way from their carrier to the ships and shivved the damn things until they sank, then someone in the present randomly gets shivved so hard that were they a fleet of naval ships, they would have sank.
If Demons Run was sealed by getting shivved into submission rather than bound with virgin sacrifices, then someone, somewhere in the present gets shivved really damn hard. As in REALLY FUCKING HARD.
In all cases, nothing else is affected.
((And yes @Elf, as you may have guessed, those would have been three different levels of activation power Lucinda's weapon in gaiden used. It literally rewrites historical events and uses them to shiv people with activation power determining scale and event significance.))

[Empiricist]

naval shivs

Well that was an embarrassing typo.

[IamanElfCollaborator]

naval shivs

Well that was an embarrassing typo.

*mental image of a fleet of rusty shivs ramming themselves into the sides of enemy ships*

[Empiricist]

Though if that contingency is used, the question is what happens if someone time travels and changes the past in a different way, such as say, saving the Titanic.

I'm personally in favor of the result being that either someone randomly gets shivved with enough force to sink the Titanic, someone randomly gets shivved with an iceberg or someone randomly gets shivved by an iceberg.

[Empiricist]

Wait, wasn't there something in the lore stuff already that was meant to actively prevent time travel to begin with?

[IamanElfCollaborator]

Wait, wasn't there something in the lore stuff already that was meant to actively prevent time travel to begin with?

Fate and the aforementioned 'past is not a place, but a concept' thing.

[Empiricist]

I thought @Akroma had something that actively sabotaged time travel attempts...

[Empiricist]

the guardian over time, who prevents time being tinkered with in any way he can. And since he alone is not bound to the rules of time, he usualy prevents tinkering with time long before the tinkering even happens, which is why higher spheres do not even know he exists.

[IamanElfCollaborator]

the guardian over time, who prevents time being tinkered with in any way he can. And since he alone is not bound to the rules of time, he usualy prevents tinkering with time long before the tinkering even happens, which is why higher spheres do not even know he exists.

Yep.

[Empiricist]

So where does metatemporality fit into the lore?

[Empiricist]

Note that apparently the Indigenous Australian deities exist in some sort of metatemporal process.

[IamanElfCollaborator]

Fuck if I know, I'll work it out when I can. Busy moving house, so I'll be posting slightly less frequently.